Bag Limit per Guild

[Pheer]

I don't get why you guys keep approaching this with the attitude that its a problem that needs solving or some kind of issue for the server to discuss. Nothing IB and FE are doing is outside the rules. The only "problem" here is that you guys are upset about the end result of a situation you had a very large part of creating in the first place.

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rules as they stand are bullshit. That's what we're trying to change here in the name of fairness. Stop saying "we're following the rules." We know. They're bullshit.

So essentially you want leftover C class spawns during a full repop to automatically go FFA to the class R guilds because "Hey at least IB or FE wont get it then"

This has nothing to do with fairness and a lot to do with you guys still wanting to control the pixel flow on the server in any way you can.

Also if you're so concerned about the rules why is this in server chat instead of the forum they set up specifically for guilds to discuss things like this? You guys could easily have gone in there and tried to get a calm and respectful dialogue going between guilds and the staff, but instead you decided to post it here hoping there would be some kind of community outcry of support and the raising of pitchforks to demand change.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also if you're so concerned about the rules why is this in server chat instead of the forum they set up specifically for guilds to discuss things like this? You guys could easily have gone in there and tried to get a calm and respectful dialogue going between guilds and the staff, but instead you decided to post it here hoping there would be some kind of community outcry of support and the raising of pitchforks to demand change.

qft

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop saying "we're following the rules."

They probably feel the need to remind everyone because everyone is intent on pointing out that this is somehow against the rules.

You clearly hate the rule. We get it.

[Lammy]

I see it being unfair when it plays out like this.

Server repop happens

1. IB/FE team up to go after the two highest priority targets (they fail because TMO is faster)
2. Now they get to split up and take 4 open world targets.

1. Say IB/FE teams up on the two highest priority targets and beats TMO
2. TMO is still limited to only 2 open world targets

Just remove the bag limit. Several other guild have proven to be capable of getting targets when they try.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see it being unfair when it plays out like this.

Server repop happens

1. IB/FE team up to go after the two highest priority targets (they fail because TMO is faster)
2. Now they get to split up and take 4 open world targets.

1. Say IB/FE teams up on the two highest priority targets and beats TMO
2. TMO is still limited to only 2 open world targets

Just remove the bag limit. Several other guild have proven to be capable of getting targets when they try.

They (IB/FE) get 4 targets. 4/2= 2 per guild

yet when you talk about your guild you used words "still limited to only" but it is still the same number that each IB and FE get.

They are not getting more targets than you guys because they are separate guilds.

They want to stack the deck to beat you guys on the normal/VP spawns because that works in both guilds best interest.

I agree though, the bag limit if any is the problem. Figure out how to fix this via the bag limit rules, not break up guild alliances.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see it being unfair when it plays out like this.

Server repop happens

1. IB/FE team up to go after the two highest priority targets (they fail because TMO is faster)
2. Now they get to split up and take 4 open world targets.

1. Say IB/FE teams up on the two highest priority targets and beats TMO
2. TMO is still limited to only 2 open world targets

Just remove the bag limit. Several other guild have proven to be capable of getting targets when they try.

So you're mad that two individual guilds would each be able to take two targets, and your guild would only be allowed to take two targets?

wat

Also in your example IB/FE teaming up to try to ensure they get the two high priority targets would mean they share the bag limit on those mobs. Theyd end up trading an additional target each to be part of the kills on the priority mobs. What exactly about that situation is unfair?

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're mad that two individual guilds would each be able to take two targets, and your guild would only be allowed to take two targets?

wat

Also in your example IB/FE teaming up to try to ensure they get the two high priority targets would mean they share the bag limit on those mobs. Theyd end up trading an additional target each to be part of the kills on the priority mobs. What exactly about that situation is unfair?

I'm not mad about anything. I'm just discussing viewpoints. And I'm certainly not mad that FE/IB raid together, If anything it's just advocating for the bag limit to be removed.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also in your example IB/FE teaming up to try to ensure they get the two high priority targets would mean they share the bag limit on those mobs. Theyd end up trading an additional target each to be part of the kills on the priority mobs. What exactly about that situation is unfair?

Nothing.

[Tanthallas]

Im going to drive to EL and cockpunch you Jeremy. Per Paladins request.

[quido]

dag yo

[Gnomersy]

FE/IB is gaming the system to their advantage. How can you not see that? You admit to being similar numbers together, as TMO. Yet you get twice as many mobs on repop. As I said you are a unit when it benefits you and separate when that benefits you. AKA gaming the system. I hate you guys for making me side with Jeremy. It's clear as day that this is a loophole that should be addressed. Obviously you didn't separate to take advantage of these new rules, but intention has 0 regard for the new rules, per TMO bard suspension. To make it an even aging field why shouldn't TMO split I half to claim more mobs on repop days. In essence you get 8 more raid targets per month staying separate.