So no chardok & no bard kiting... discuss

[TacoSmasher]

wtf i hate p99 now

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by TacoSmasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtf i hate p99 now

Personally I wish they'd lower the cap to something more realistic.... Like 10.

[Jhaerik]

Gah no edit feature. QQ.

Anyway server could do without PL'ers and aoe farmers. Might be people to actually group with in some of the less used dungeons.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interested to see how the change plays out, but I'm not excited about it. Seems like putting it only in certain high level zones would be appropriate - now I can't aoe Warrens to get my paineel key faction?

Don't really get how you're trying to spin this as an enjoying the nerd rage thang considering it adversely affects people who play the game the normal way, and represents the staff breaking from classic because they couldn't handle enforcing the PNP...

Seems like the terrorists won. can u explain how are u smug about that?

I guess it depends on what you call "normal." AoE'ing 26-100 mobs is by the classic definition of EQ certainly not normal. 28k-56k connections and the video hardware of the day could NOT handle that. This is a classic server, not a progression live wannabe. If it ain't classic... we'll make it so.

[RedXIII]

Huuuge nerf to wizards. Cant belive nilbog finally crumbled into this silly pressure about no AE'ing zones... this is a classic feature. i live in Brazil and i was able to AE sebilis without desync issues on a 56k dial up modem. The #25mobs id just waaay too low. I agree that the 140 mobs in chardok isnt classic but 25 isnt either.

I recall easy 60mobs been AE'd down in sebilis. /shrugs. Sad to see this changed even thou doesnt affect me at all since i am already 60 on everything i wanted.

[Nihilist_santa]

Man sucks for bards. Bards are one of the only remaining reasons to play p99. On the TLEs on live they still have bards messed up where AOE only hits mobs that are standing still even during "vanilla".

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given those things you've quoted, do you think a cap of 25 or 145 is more accurate?

Again, I think Chardok on p99 was total bullshit.

I certainly didn't post the links to defend Chardok, I didn't think AOEing large numbers of mobs was classic either but what do ya know 2 minutes on Google says it is.

One of those threads, from May 2001, the author says in a group with only 1 person who had ever even attempted AOE before was able to knock out 25 mobs in a pull. It stands to reason if they were doing up to 25 on a very first attempt they were doing more on a second attempt as that's just how EQ was and is.

As quoted in the earlier post they also say they were doing up to 40 mobs. Fear of wiping and inexperience is cited far more frequently as the reason for not pulling more mobs than lag.

Just pointing out it's inaccurate to say "More than 25 mobs on live was impossible due to technology" Was 100 possible? I doubt it, but the proof is there 40 was possible. If someone cares to look it up (not going to bother) I would bet there is a thread out there boasting about more than 40 mob pulls.

tl;dr Chardok sucks, more than 25 mobs were being pulled and AOE'd in early 2001.

[skarlorn]

sorry to DOX u Big J but i gotta Leak this Recently Found Pic of you..

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[thufir]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interested to see how the change plays out, but I'm not excited about it. Seems like putting it only in certain high level zones would be appropriate - now I can't aoe Warrens to get my paineel key faction?

Don't really get how you're trying to spin this as an enjoying the nerd rage thang considering it adversely affects people who play the game the normal way, and represents the staff breaking from classic because they couldn't handle enforcing the PNP...

Seems like the terrorists won. can u explain how are u smug about that?

he doesn't have to spin. nearly all of us are enjoying the nerd rage. nobody thinks a few paid volunteers should be on call to enforce pnp 24/7.

and if you're not one of the people enjoying it, well, it's your nerd rage, do what you like.

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm organizing a wizard sit in. We gather at chardok ent and send verant a message that we will not take this abuse. Monks are power leveling better than we can in all this velious gear. It's just not fair.

Yeah, FU Verant!