PnP Rules - Changes or Removal Necessary - GMs Please Read

[dis_mornin]

Originally Posted by Fame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it does come down to loving pvp.

I'm here for pvp and always have been. By chance, people like Mornin are directly responsible for that.

When I was a young lad.. I happened upon this noble druid in the Eastern Common Lands, I did not know about level range or anything remotely PvP related at this time, I was new on the server, only a couple of hours in, level 5. He offered to buff me and told me to join his group for buffs.

LOADING PLEASE WAIT..

I am descending on the druid ring in North Karana as Mornin /shouts "Cleanse this foul elf!!" The Treants begin to charge.

LOADING PLEASE WAIT..

Four hours and one hell of a corpse run later I find my molested body near the rings and never looked back. In hindsight, it was actually a pretty nice saturday.

I'm here because of that, the only things that have deterred that interest since are PnP and a brief time where I thought I might not be able to play due to RL.



I'm here for the PvP. I'm not the only one.

True story

[FaithlessKR]

Not everyone has /who bound to a key they use regularly. I went through live for over 6 years without ever doing it, and most of my time on red99 also.

While I also believe that in the spirit of the rules, it should be the person on lns to be responsible to check the zone and shout lns for every new person entering, it's also understandable to not do it more than once in a 10 second period of time. Andis said he logged in, and within 10 seconds attacked a naked Revy.

There's a chance that revy had checked who shortly before andis logged in and saw nobody and continued to his corpse. If the next time he goes to check who he's already being attacked, then shouting LNS will do absolutely nothing for him.

As we all know, calling LNS after you've already been attacked will do absolutely nothing for you and you will just die. And on a corpse run like one to seb that can take forever if you're not bound in Kunark, it can leave you pretty salty.

I don't really fault either side of this situation for their reaction, and like Colgate said the rules need to be revamped into something more manageable since there are no GM's on red to police these situations.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not everyone has /who bound to a key they use regularly. I went through live for over 6 years without ever doing it, and most of my time on red99 also.

While I also believe that in the spirit of the rules, it should be the person on lns to be responsible to check the zone and shout lns for every new person entering, it's also understandable to not do it more than once in a 10 second period of time. Andis said he logged in, and within 10 seconds attacked a naked Revy.

There's a chance that revy had checked who shortly before andis logged in and saw nobody and continued to his corpse. If the next time he goes to check who he's already being attacked, then shouting LNS will do absolutely nothing for him.

As we all know, calling LNS after you've already been attacked will do absolutely nothing for you and you will just die. And on a corpse run like one to seb that can take forever if you're not bound in Kunark, it can leave you pretty salty.

I don't really fault either side of this situation for their reaction, and like Colgate said the rules need to be revamped into something more manageable since there are no GM's on red to police these situations.

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[pink grapefruit]

So OP killed a naked person on LnS? Sounds like the ban was well-deserved. Like that's precisely what the rule is trying to prevent, right?

[Bazia]

dont pvp you get nothing out of it

[Dacuk]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so you're justifying acting like a retarded douchebag just because "it's possible"

??

what who's justifying anything

??

i'm saying we should work to improve the system so people don't take advantage of it. this is the exact type of topic that should be reserved for respected community leaders.

I think hardcoding a /lns tag would be awesome. would love to understand how we could make seomthing like that work

[Fame]

man colgate really took a character dive for this guild, sad to see

[worch]

Originally Posted by Guido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both times I have just loaded into the game - killed someone not knowing they have called lns in ooc - and I've taken the hit both times.

The PnP addresses this issue. Quote from PnP:

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a new player enters the zone, you must call Loot and Scoot so they are aware of your intentions.

Did you ignore the LnSer's message? Or did the LnS not follow the PnP rules?

One thing it doesn't address, however, is if you put the LnSer on /ignore.

[iiNGloriouS]

Since theres this thread now;

Originally Posted by iiNGloriouS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh that's right because you logged in on top of me and immediately popped duelist and 1 shotted me.

I don't like petition quest, but you know how many times I died on lns to azrael? Bout 6 times that day. I was trying to get out of Seb for 8 fucking hours dog. You also can ask your guild before you attack people because they all knew I had been trying to lns since they all violated it. Or just don't attack naked people in general, fire a warning shot, etc.

Was hoping Darkside And Chuck would eat a suspension too since they killed me about 3 times in a row.

Just don't be a fucking idiot and use your head. It isn't hard.

[pingpong]

Originally Posted by iiNGloriouS [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since theres this thread now;

^^
Guido you should post this on your petition thread. This basically exonerates you. It sucks that revy had LNS violated earlier, but this situation seems like unfortunate case where someone logged in and killed someone without knowing they were on LNS. That is going to happen a fair bit.

It is shitty of Revy to petition Guido when it seems like he knew that Guido logged in without knowing Revy was on LNS. Revy should have petitioned the people who killed him multiple times, not someone that got you once.