Bad boys 2 : Martin Lawrence and Will Smith r back - CENSORED VERSION

[Gitem]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.

Can't believe that I'm saying this but thanks elderan. It looks like the gms don't want rmt because they don't want to enforce the csr part of deals gone bad. Understandable.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.

The point was to illustrate that RMTing has been around since the birth of the game in 1999, regardless of Sony officially supporting it or not. As you said, PlayerAuctions and a few other sites popped right up in the wake of Ebay complying with Sony's request to pull those auctions (they were never "forced" fyi). Never heard of Sony going after any others after the Ebay incident.

Their viewpoint was that the sales encouraged cheating, created animosity amongst the community and provided an avenue for scammers to sucker people. I'd venture to guess that having an employee creating items on the side to sell for RL cash didn't help either.

Seems logical that Rogean and Co. hold the same opinion.

[alaiwy0503]

Originally Posted by Gitem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until ebay started removing those auctions and banned them due to sony contacting them and forcing them to. That is when playersauction.com was born.

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.

Can confirm. The first email/csr i ever received was from eBay not from SONY. I was funneling plat and items from Rallos Zek to the legends server and back to rallos zek by the millions and if sony cared at all they would have banned my accounts.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Gitem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So then why is it not allowed? It's the only reason that I can think of other than not classic.

Elderan answered it pretty well I think, as it applies here the same as it did on live:

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sony did not care about the rmt as much as the problems it caused them from the CS department and people getting ripped off. That is where their main problem with it came.

I think the biggest evidence of this is that they used to allow account for items/plat/account trades, player run casinos, etc - and now that is all against the rules. People will find a way to fuck each other over if they can, why should the staff here be the ones constantly sorting that garbage out when someone scams someone else?

Plus it's just general human nature to believe something is supported if it isn't stated somewhere explicitly that it isn't. It HAS to be against the rules, even if they truly don't give a shit.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point was to illustrate that RMTing has been around since the birth of the game in 1999, regardless of Sony officially supporting it or not. As you said, PlayerAuctions and a few other sites popped right up in the wake of Ebay complying with Sony's request to pull those auctions (they were never "forced" fyi). Never heard of Sony going after any others after the Ebay incident.

Their viewpoint was that the sales encouraged cheating, created animosity amongst the community and provided an avenue for scammers to sucker people. I'd venture to guess that having an employee creating items on the side to sell for RL cash didn't help either.

Seems logical that Rogean and Co. hold the same opinion.

Yep, pretty spot on imo.

[LostCause]

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[quido]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes I wish I was a felon just so I could not vote on some of these horrible elections.

lol who do you think you're fooling?

Generally felons can vote again once their supervision has been completed. You're still a felon, though, Eldermoran.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol who do you think you're fooling?

Generally felons can vote again once their supervision has been completed. You're still a felon, though, Eldermoran.

Even if elderan is a felon, he's way cooler than you are you weirdo prick. Get some mental therapy pal

[quido]

lol I'm sure

[quido]

Could you imagine going to dinner with Elderan and trying to split the check? AT LEAST MY NUMBERS ADD UP!

Felon thing shouldn't be a big deal anyways considering 3 years ago Elderan was bragging about stealing from people (The Boy Scouts) to his guild on blue. Of course it was all surrounded with lies, as is usual for Elderan, but here he is still trying to deny it despite his own admission and the supporting proof.