Re: Raid Situation

[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I pooped a gold bar I'm pretty sure you'd take it and not be like "idk man that just came from your ass." It's a fuckin free gold bar, be grateful.

Just sayin.

A gold bar you shit is worth 0.

[feanan]

It's funny how this whole thing started because TMO is full of selfish, cheating, RMT'ing duping douche bags.

Yet every thread I read with TMO tears is them trying to blame everything on BDA.

Perhaps TMO should have tried making the server a better place in the 2 years they were on top instead of being forced in to it.

[Snagglepuss]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I pooped a gold bar I'm pretty sure you'd take it and not be like "idk man that just came from your ass." It's a fuckin free gold bar, be grateful.

Just sayin.

But your ass dictated the terms of the gold.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by SyanideGas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A gold bar you shit is worth 0.

What.

Okay maybe the silly analogy didn't come across well. The point is if the raid agreement was great, why does it matter how it came about?

The raid agreement was different than what people were discussing because it involved simulated repops, which everyone thought were off the table. GMs agreed to simulated repops, which was a major concession.

[dav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUUv4dweE1A

[slappytwotoes]

This is what happened from what I gather:

1. Talks were centered around a modified Rogean proposal that is being called the 1+1+1 Plan.

2. After the third hour, each group separated to work things out amongst themselves. T1 went into their own chat room, T2 to theirs and the Staff to theirs.

3. T2 finished in 15 minutes. T1 took 40minutes and Server staff jumped into their chat room for a good part of it.

4. Server staff comes out and announces that the plan we just had (I'll call it Sirken's plan) will be the definitive plan.

T2 guilds were pissed because that plan was not negotiated. They had just spent hours negotiating with the 1+1+1 plan as their baseline only to be dictated to that Sirken's new plan was the final decision.

My *guess* is that T1 was not going to capitulate to the 1+1+1 Plan and told Staff so. The Sirken Plan was then decided on so an agreement could be reached and raiding would continue.

T2 felt that coming to this decision without themselves present and also ending discussions at this point was an egregious breach of good faith. PMs went out to Rogean and it seems he agreed.

Welcome to Square 1

[Fael]

How many mobs do tier 2 guilds rotate between under the repop agreement ?

How many would they get under div Rogean plan?

Anyone do the per month math yet ?

Dolic

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Snagglepuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But your ass dictated the terms of the gold.

I truly did LoL.

Bravo.

[Tecmos Deception]

I'll take your assgold, Byrjun, even though I called you a know-it-all.

[quido]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's funny how this whole thing started because TMO is full of selfish, cheating, RMT'ing duping douche bags.

Yet every thread I read with TMO tears is them trying to blame everything on BDA.

Perhaps TMO should have tried making the server a better place in the 2 years they were on top instead of being forced in to it.

You're confusing two different things, ya moran. BDA stands accused of being unnecessarily obstinate in the discussions, not of causing whatever problems before these negotiations.