How do you justify not paying for EverQuest?

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they prioritize monetization over bug fixes and actually fun new content

that's the only business model left for live and other zombie mmos, and running progression servers.

they used to just shut the servers down when people stopped playing a game then someone realized Whales exist and love the cash shops in games

i logged on live this week and didn't know wtf to do with my hotbars because my live character is level 120 with 40,000 AAs, 39,000 of them i got instantly when i bought some expansions and a month of game time 2 years ago when they released Kunark/Velious/Luclin 3.0 Reboot expansions

they can't even be fucking bothered to do new/returning player onboarding right

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes definitely a chat bot bruh.
their hands are tied by the legal agreement. Simple answer there.

You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down and you see a tortoise, cd288, it's crawling toward you

[Duik]

Everquest next?
Chatbot needs more food matey.

[shovelquest]

Lets just hope they dont start realizing nobody plays on their classic TLP servers (tormax) because they have p99.

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[Ciderpress]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets just hope they dont start realizing nobody plays on their classic TLP servers (tormax) because they have p99.

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Honestly I don't think p99 rips many players from live at all, because TLPs continue forward into all the content that people who play here ostensibly don't like.

If anything p99 addicts who are really hardcore about it will actually roll on new live TLPs to compete during the pre-luclin content then just come back to p99.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ciderpress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I don't think p99 rips many players from live at all, because TLPs continue forward into all the content that people who play here ostensibly don't like.

If anything p99 addicts who are really hardcore about it will actually roll on new live TLPs to compete during the pre-luclin content then just come back to p99.

Yup. There are some P99 players who play TLP, so it's not even that 100% of our player base causes the IP holder to lose TLP money.

[Bisonzabi]

The business model of $15 a month is archaic and the amount of things to preoccupy your spare time compared to 99-2003 when EQ was at its peak has drastically increased, especially for PC gaming, which is so far beyond in scope of what it was in the 2000's. If you went through an old brick and mortar catalogue for PC games back then, you'd get maybe around 25-50 games advertised, some of which were years old at that point. Compare that to how colossal Steam's library has gotten since 2003-2007 and how many people with 100+ backlogged games to divest their time into.

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's the only business model left for live and other zombie mmos, and running progression servers.

they used to just shut the servers down when people stopped playing a game then someone realized Whales exist and love the cash shops in games

Exactly this, it's a necessary evil. The only reason many old MMO's are still up is due to MMO's converting into f2p microtransaction shops for the whales. When DBG was sold off once again a few years ago, they stated in their financial reports that EQ2 only had 20,000 remaining subscribers (good chunk is probably boxers). That use to be a death sentence for any MMO back in the pre-f2p era.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup. There are some P99 players who play TLP, so it's not even that 100% of our player base causes the IP holder to lose TLP money.

They recently had their "classic" server and it was a total bust, their mischife server was booming.

But I genuenlly think the tormax server was of no interest to people becuase everyone who play eq on live got what they wanted from classic on P99, or are here.

Id have played tormax if not for p99, thats at least 1.

[shovelquest]

Yeah by no means would live compare in a side by side experience, but tormax was intended to be a classic server. And if there were no EMU's you know we'd all have been on it.

[Ekco]

i remember that first TLP server being sold as classic, maybe not officially from them but it definitively was how it was sold to me back in 2016 or whenever that was by people here or somewhere on the internet.

and it turned into a complete fucking joke like 10 minutes in when i realized those potion merchants with Hots and DD heals and Clarity and all that shit was ingame.

i've given them multiple chances to get their hooks back in me but they fuck it up each time, most recently relogging into my level 120 necro with a blank UI and there isn't a button to press to just load up a starter hotbar setup and spell loadout, like my brother in christ, i ain't about it sit here for an hour and half just setting up my fucking UI to play your dead game, you gotta meet me half way here a little bit.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i remember that first TLP server being sold as classic, maybe not officially from them but it definitively was how it was sold to me back in 2016 or whenever that was by people here or somewhere on the internet.

and it turned into a complete fucking joke like 10 minutes in when i realized those potion merchants with Hots and DD heals and Clarity and all that shit was ingame.

i've given them multiple chances to get their hooks back in me but they fuck it up each time, most recently relogging into my level 120 necro with a blank UI and there isn't a button to press to just load up a starter hotbar setup and spell loadout, like my brother in christ, i ain't about it sit here for an hour and half just setting up my fucking UI to play your dead game, you gotta meet me half way here a little bit.

For real. I tried a few years ago to play my old characters and it just gave me like 30k AAs and I had what felt like dozens of Cooldown hotkeys to keep track of. Not for me.