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[Cyrius]

I base this off the reason that I know more than you about longevity of holding and growing communities.

So how do you figure you know more then me? Do you know me? This shows how full of your self you realy are.

[Peppa]

Originally Posted by Cyrius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So how do you figure you know more then me? Do you know me? This shows how full of your self you realy are.

Because I built a gaming network that as of October 2010 grew bigger than IGN and right below MTV.

So ya, kinda a big deal around the internet.


Mostly using it to troll you so calm down. Seriously; wtf pvp?

[Cyrius]

OH NOES!!! Everyone down on their knees, we have a "big deal" here!! *yawn* Yeah im not impressed.

[Peppa]

Originally Posted by Cyrius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OH NOES!!! Everyone down on their knees, we have a "big deal" here!! *yawn* Yeah im not impressed.

WTB P99 server, will increase stability of Eqemu x5.

[Rogean]

Cyrius, Nilbog is the founder but both of us make up the management of the server. Any large decisions are discussed and debated between us until a decision is reached. For the most part we have a common set of mind, and have common opinions on most situations.

If Nilbog feels strongly enough about something then I respect his decision, such as the release if the source and database. The opposite has been true in many situations where I felt strongly about something and he would respect my opinion.

I don't see us making the source public. There is too much proprietary changes for that, as well as systems being made public that would compromise our security and hacking detection methods.

The best chance you guys have is a pvp server operated by the current staff. Both Nilbog and I wouldn't mind running a pvp server, however you must understand that the desire for pve does outweigh pvp, and the current focus is on that and Kunark. PvP servers are also very tedious and stressful to run, as the player base is MUCH more difficult to work with.

This is why I said that maybe when Kunark is out and epics are close to done, we can consider a pvp server. However, to keep the main server the desirable one, we may limit the second server to classic.

Once again, this is not a promise or a garauntee to anything other than we will consider it.

[mitic]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, to keep the main server the desirable one, we may limit the second server to classic.

i concur with everything u said except above quote. you cant change the mindset of players to make a pve server the desireable one. if they are pvpers by heart, they will stay pvpers forever...

just make a mirrored pvp server to the current one! it will be a win win situation and the influx of new players to your project1999 will double, mark my words

[Peppa]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why I said that maybe when Kunark is out and epics are close to done, we can consider a pvp server.

Bro

If you guys spend months on getting Kunark quests / items done when I have been offering resources for, god knows how long, I'm going to rage pretty hard.

Kunark is a complete mess, we can resolve it in 1 hour and get to testing.

[Pico]

Salt/Peppa you are literally why pvp servers fail, because of their consistently insufferable player base.

And the fact that you want P99's source so bad yet are doing your absolute worst at convincing them to make it open source by making yourself look like an arrogant, selfish douche is hilarious.

[nilbog]

So, when I started the project, I was new to eqemu. I played on vztz, ckv, peq, and then complexity. Then I was like WTF is wrong with this shit, and started making project1999. We, (original devs), were not programmers and hardly touched the source. That being said, it's safe to assume the content was the original allure of the server. That or the no boxing rule, hah. The source changes were few and far between, as it was nearly impossible to procure help with the source prior to launch.

Due to popularity, we then got a LOT more help. Rogean, Haynar, and every source developer thereafter. The source continuously improves, as does the content.

Is the 'content' you keep offering me from vztz? I don't want that shit. I wouldn't let it anywhere near my db.

If it is, then you might? know how complicated it would be to merge it with an existing proprietary database. It would be much fucking longer than 1 hour. If they have something fixed we do not, why don't you submit some fixes?

Which leads me to believe you don't care about the quality of the content.. you just want the source and don't care if its aligned with vztz content. (which is shit, no personal offense to them, thats just what we focused on.)

In closing, I like pvp. I would like to help run a 'fixed' pvp server. What I don't like.. is people trying to rationalize why we should give them things, when they have done no development.