Proof Global Warming Exists!!!!

BeelzeBob · #1 07-19-2010, 03:44 PM

Some topical reading today...
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Originally Posted by http://www.universetoday.com/2010/07/19/2010-had-warmest-global-june-on-record/

Was last month warm where you live? If so, you weren't alone. According to measurements taken by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) June 2010 was the hottest June on record worldwide. But this is not a new trend, at least for this year. March, April, and May 2010 were also the warmest on record. This was also the 304th consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last month with below-average temperature was February 1985.

Stickyfingers · #2 07-19-2010, 03:57 PM

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Some topical reading today...
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It's unfortunate. They fail to recognize the fact that El Nino is occuring this year, causing the temperature of the oceans to rise and thus causing very warm temperatures this summer. Of course though, they couldn't say something NATURAL was causing it, now could they.

Also, I am very skeptical about Global Warming. Especially when the information used in the studies is drawn from only 2 different sources. There has also been issue in the past, most recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...il_controversy

Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.

There was also an incident a few years ago, where NASA "accidently" used the same temperature data set for October that they recorded in September for a large region of Russia, causing the temperatures to report higher than they were. Of course some kind citizens I believe cracked the database and found the anomaly. They called NASA out on it and NASA basically said, "Oh, our bad, that was a mistake". SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREEEEEE.

guineapig · #3 07-19-2010, 04:04 PM

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Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.

This sounds very interesting. Mind posting a link to this news article?

Stickyfingers · #4 07-19-2010, 04:06 PM

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This sounds very interesting. Mind posting a link to this news article?

Heres a link

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/

Perhaps a more legitimate link, this one kind of douses the concerns. However, it also raises other ones. It's hard to know who to believe, especially with such a large vested interest between businesses and news outlets like CBS and Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6653464.shtml

guineapig · #5 07-19-2010, 04:20 PM

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Heres a link

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...lobal-warming/

Perhaps a more legitimate link, this one kind of douses the concerns. However, it also raises other ones. It's hard to know who to believe, especially with such a large vested interest between businesses and news outlets like CBS and Fox.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6653464.shtml

Ah, The Daily Telegraph... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know they also posted this article a few months prior:

On 1 January 2009, The Daily Telegraph published “Greenhouse gases could have caused an ice age, claim scientists”, which said “Scientists have warned” that “filling the atmosphere with Greenhouse gases associated with global warming could push the planet into a new ice age”.

The research they were quoting was from was Professor Ian Fairchild. He claimed that The Telegraph was misrepresenting his findings. The Daily Telegraph refused to publish an apology and deleted his comments on the website.

BeelzeBob · #6 07-19-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickyfingers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's unfortunate. They fail to recognize the fact that El Nino is occuring this year, causing the temperature of the oceans to rise and thus causing very warm temperatures this summer. Of course though, they couldn't say something NATURAL was causing it, now could they.

Also, I am very skeptical about Global Warming. Especially when the information used in the studies is drawn from only 2 different sources. There has also been issue in the past, most recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climati...il_controversy

Basically some people hacked some climate study email accounts and found that in many of the emails LEAD scientists for Global Warming were discussing ways to cover up and make it seem as though the numbers were conducive to global warming.

There was also an incident a few years ago, where NASA "accidently" used the same temperature data set for October that they recorded in September for a large region of Russia, causing the temperatures to report higher than they were. Of course some kind citizens I believe cracked the database and found the anomaly. They called NASA out on it and NASA basically said, "Oh, our bad, that was a mistake". SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREEEEEE.

What do you think is causing the rising ocean surface temperature, aka El Nino?...

And as far as 'climategate' is concerned, every single person involved was exonerated and not a single research paper was retracted by any science journal. The entire thing was hot-air stirred up by the media.

Daywolf · #7 07-20-2010, 01:54 AM

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Ah, The Daily Telegraph... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL here we go again. Actually I'm downright surprised there is someone that does not know anything about this, it's called climategate. ...I mean anyone that has been following the controversy at all even the past few years for real. This news was major breaking on most every network. There was a big uproar over it. Even a song/video... lol (posted it already) it's hilarious! I'm baffled that people don't know and or support this bogus data. Well I know why some do, they have made tons of money and power off of the whole thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I guess they keep their disciples in the dark somehow. Time to reevaluate.

Now I know that any link I provide will be absolutely and positively rejected unless it says I am lying... but for those that did their homework and are in the know already, this is interesting: Rep Candice Miller

guineapig · #8 07-20-2010, 10:37 AM

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LOL here we go again. Actually I'm downright surprised there is someone that does not know anything about this, it's called climategate. ...I mean anyone that has been following the controversy at all even the past few years for real. This news was major breaking on most every network. There was a big uproar over it. Even a song/video... lol (posted it already) it's hilarious! I'm baffled that people don't know and or support this bogus data. Well I know why some do, they have made tons of money and power off of the whole thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I guess they keep their disciples in the dark somehow. Time to reevaluate.

Now I know that any link I provide will be absolutely and positively rejected unless it says I am lying... but for those that did their homework and are in the know already, this is interesting: Rep Candice Miller

You fail again. The case was dismissed and the people in question exonerated.

Daywolf · #9 07-20-2010, 02:04 PM

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You fail again. The case was dismissed and the people in question exonerated.

Dismissed, rofl. They destroyed public data. They talked about manipulating the data. They should be in prison. It's a con job as it's been all along. If the situation were reversed, people would admit it and find a solution - but this is not the case, just a futile attempt to hold onto the cause.

Like so what if peoples lives are destroyed by this fanaticism on an extreme religious level, us poor sods just don't have the blind faith to believe I guess. So like things as cap and trade can be implemented, putting the US in it's place for all it's blasphemies against the holy environment. The UN can continue to try to slap the West and give the green light to countries like China to churn out mass pollution and gain great wealth. The West is simply ebil and needs to be destroyed, all the wealth carried to other parts of the world rather than they creating their own in the same free and open market fashion the West did.

Meanwhile third world nations continue to suffer, held down by bogus regulation that makes it impossible for them to industrialize. Well let them eat cake. Then blame it on the US, say the US is the cause to their effect and drive their hatred, creating greater divides in preparation for WWIII. Once humanity no longer exists, well the holy environment can move forward once again w/o ebil people driving SUV's. Watch, you will see this chosen path become more visible in your lifetime. These top global warming guru's/environmentalists arent just liars, they have an agenda and it's just a means to an end.

As Miller said, they are just a bunch of 3rd graders. Though my view of them is far more critical for sure. You didn't know what climategate was just a few hours ago, best to put some actual time into study rather than the first debunker blog you find on the internet.

Disclaimer: Just thought I'd mention, I don't hate anyone for believing different nor think them lesser men. I just thought it best to mention that since this is a game forum and often people are not used to debates/discussions as happens at some other venues. I believe that truth is not relative thus in the end all will be known. No one has everything right, an it takes a lot of effort to find any of it now rather than later. I don't expect anyone to change their opinion/views in a sudden moment, as often it takes much time, research and reflection. This I know from first hand experience regarding the change of views.

guineapig · #10 07-20-2010, 03:04 PM

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a bunch of opinions

Here's the thing man. You can rant all you want about what you believe, that's fine. Not once have I posted my personal beliefs or opinions on the matter. All I was doing was shooting down the links you were posting because they were poor sources of information.

Please don't take this as anything personal.

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OK...here we go.
bunch O knowledge

Good stuff man, I would expect no less coming from you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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As to the world's climate, the only real assumption that one can make with total accuracy is that the world's climate is not a static thing and the earth will get warmer and cooler several times in the next 100,000 years. A cooling event is likely to kill off much of the world's population (which might be a good thing if you are a member of PETA or believe that the world cannot keep on supporting us humans without it eventually being destroyed by pollution, the using up of fossil fuels, loss of habitat and the earth's lungs in the form of forests, etc).

My main nitpick is with this part and that's only because of the following.
For good or bad, humans are one of the most adaptable beings on the planet (due in no small part to technology). In other words, chances are humans will survive the next ice age even if most other beings won't.

Of course there is always the chance (or is it likelihood?)that we destroy ourselves long before the next ice age happens. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]