Some variance ideas - Page 13

quido · #**121** 06-10-2013, 09:48 AM

Fael · #**122** 06-10-2013, 10:39 AM

Pulling with hide and invisibility is well understood now by most people on this server. Whether that was classic or not has been argued ad nauseum on these boards. Last i checked, changes will be made.

I wasn't around when Amelinda was here, but it seems that she did not fully understood what was actually preventing adds. After all this time, it seems that Harrison hasn't a clue either. Z axis exploiting is a pretty cool name, but I have no idea what you mean by it. Could you please explain how it works, and how TMO was using it to "exploit." I have seen you refer to this "documented" event hundreds of times.... Could you please explain what was going there?

Dolic

skipdog · #**123** 06-10-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think theres any debate, as far as the playerbase is concerned. I've never heard of anyone, even the top guilds, support variance. Though they may still get the majority of mobs it just makes them sit around for days waiting for it, it didnt really solve anything other than only allowing the hardest of the hardcore to compete.

I guess its better than not, if the server knew when trak was going to spawn instead of 2 guilds sitting at location for 2 days wed have 6 or 7 guilds flood the zone 1 hour before pop and it would be a worse shit show.

But at least guilds outside of the top 2 would have some sort of chane to fte

Not a single person supports variance?

Keep living in your fantasy world, man. Sirkin supports variance and I support his opinion on the matter 100%.

skipdog · #**124** 06-10-2013, 11:43 AM

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Ick, tokens

Keep variance, add simulated server repops

I had seen a post stating we can download the eqemu code and implement some code for simulated server repops, but what are the actual chances any of it will ever been used?

I'd be willing to put in the time to give it a shot.

Whoa whoa be careful there man. I got booted from BDA by Slydexx for literally voicing my support for variance in guild chat. No warning, no nothing. No personal attacks on anybody. Booted just for having an unpopular opinion. Better not let the other members see this post...

That Slydexx sure is a classy guy!

Rhambuk · #**125** 06-10-2013, 11:57 AM

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Not a single person supports variance?

haha okay okay, it has some support...

still the most unpopular thing since that dude claiming to be a combat medic washed out.

Ryba · #**126** 06-10-2013, 12:00 PM

Variance, Velious, ninja resets(?). That is the future, no matter how much time you spend coming up with complex systems of *equally not classic* spawn randomization. And it is the best future you could hope for.

This thread and its ten thousand clones are a case study in why you don't build products based on what customers think they want. Sirken does a good job and half of you would have his head on a stake.

Do a thought experiment:
1.) Assume the management isn't retarded or actively trying to undermine their server
2.) Try to imagine why they leave variance the way it is
3.) Relax the muscles in your face and exhale your nerdrage as understanding dawns

Rhambuk · #**127** 06-10-2013, 12:39 PM

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VSirken does a good job and half of you would have his head on a stake.

Love sirken, the only issue I have after reading this is it looks like he thinks all casuals just want to be given loot and have their hand held...

fohkure · #**128** 06-10-2013, 01:00 PM

the pve i did before going to sz was pretty tame and i dont recall there being a lot of drama, but on the servers that were similar to p99, ala rampant bitching, petitionquesting, screaming for GM rulings, FTE, poopsocking, etc., what did the GMs for the server do? surely they did something along the lines of either enforce a rotation or an ultimatum such as "if you cant fucking police yourselves im going to despawn every raid mob for a week until you learn" because i can only imagine the headache as a bunch of bluebies send you petition after petition day after fucking day screaming, in essence, "I NEED MY PIXEEEEEEEEEEEEEELS"

edit: i raided much more in-depth on sz and as such there was very little gm involvement. sony claimed that pvp held the resolution for most disputes.

**Aeolwind** · #**129** 06-10-2013, 06:23 PM

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the pve i did before going to sz was pretty tame and i dont recall there being a lot of drama, but on the servers that were similar to p99, ala rampant bitching, petitionquesting, screaming for GM rulings, FTE, poopsocking, etc., what did the GMs for the server do? surely they did something along the lines of either enforce a rotation or an ultimatum such as "if you cant fucking police yourselves im going to despawn every raid mob for a week until you learn" because i can only imagine the headache as a bunch of bluebies send you petition after petition day after fucking day screaming, in essence, "I NEED MY PIXEEEEEEEEEEEEEELS"

edit: i raided much more in-depth on sz and as such there was very little gm involvement. sony claimed that pvp held the resolution for most disputes.

Rumor had it that Tweety threatened to despawn every raid mob on the server and ban both guilds (DK and MS) till they decided to be reasonable.

Rule on emarr due to the above was 'race till you manage to sneak in a kill, then rotation after that.' Started in Kunark. VS & trak were still on rotation 2-3 years later. Epics were FFA, but they had the 'don't be a dick' policy in place. This rule was honored by the guilds knowing full well they'd get cockblocked out of everything if they broke it.

Much later in POP, GM's threatened to despawn Rallos Zek and all the Elemental Planes if the bitching/KSing/Training didn't stop and ban both guild leaders and disband both guilds.

Rhambuk · #**130** 06-10-2013, 06:51 PM

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Rumor had it that Tweety threatened to despawn every raid mob on the server and ban both guilds (DK and MS) till they decided to be reasonable.

Rule on emarr due to the above was 'race till you manage to sneak in a kill, then rotation after that.' Started in Kunark. VS & trak were still on rotation 2-3 years later. Epics were FFA, but they had the 'don't be a dick' policy in place. This rule was honored by the guilds knowing full well they'd get cockblocked out of everything if they broke it.

Much later in POP, GM's threatened to despawn Rallos Zek and all the Elemental Planes if the bitching/KSing/Training didn't stop and ban both guild leaders and disband both guilds.

Sounds like a great idea for p99