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Old 06-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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There is the first No.
Please show me where I said no Kagok. There is a rotation implemented for every PM slot currently. If FE would like to raid sky without interfering with another guilds day then FE should use the AM hours to their advantage.
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:45 PM
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Please show me where I said no Kagok. There is a rotation implemented for every PM slot currently. If FE would like to raid sky without interfering with another guilds day then FE should use the AM hours to their advantage.
kagok asked if any guild would be willing to rotate their own rotation day with FE and you said sorry all days are full do it at 8 am if you want to raid sky...hence no.

we'll just go up when we have the interest then. thanks to FC though for offering to letting us tag along sorry i couldn't make it Tuesday.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:06 PM
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kagok asked if any guild would be willing to rotate their own rotation day with FE and you said sorry all days are full do it at 8 am if you want to raid sky...hence no.

we'll just go up when we have the interest then. thanks to FC though for offering to letting us tag along sorry i couldn't make it Tuesday.
Again, your (Kagok's) words not mine. Does "we'll just go up when we have the interest" mean that you won't care who's day it is as you have no interest in adhering to this schedule that's been maintained for months?
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:10 PM
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Again, your (Kagok's) words not mine. Does "we'll just go up when we have the interest" mean that you won't care who's day it is as you have no interest in adhering to this schedule that's been maintained for months?
if it was my choice yes. people have asked to have us included in the schedule and we were told to go at 8 am. if the point of the rotation is to have all guilds getting along and working together so that everyone can participate don't think it's asking too much to have one guild a week give up their day to another guild since they will still get 3 sky raids a month at a minimum.

edit and it was your words. you said no go up at 8 am we already have a rotation.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:23 PM
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As I said before the simplest solution is to get TMO to start an hour earlier (noon EST would be fine, and I have no idea how this is screwing their euro/PST raiders ala Alarti who I think just likes to be difficult), move the A-Team to sunday night (we usually don't get started till pretty late anyway, 8-9PM est is fine for us) and then you guys can have Monday. I'm pretty sure that if you talk to someone in TMO who isn't a forum troll they'd be willing to move an hour.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:24 PM
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if it was my choice yes. people have asked to have us included in the schedule and we were told to go at 8 am. if the point of the rotation is to have all guilds getting along and working together so that everyone can participate don't think it's asking too much to have one guild a week give up their day to another guild since they will still get 3 sky raids a month at a minimum.

edit and it was your words. you said no go up at 8 am we already have a rotation.
Your guild had no interest in the rotation when this was conceived. Your guild is built around tracking targets and responding to batphones for said targets. That's not a knock against your guild, it's just how you choose to play the game. For you to show up late to the party and demand a slot during the hours that are currently occupied smacks of pretension and entitlement.

I think I can speak for most of the casual guilds when I say that we choose to raid sky because its hassle free and we don't have to participate in the toxic playstyle that FE and TMO propagate. We've carved out a schedule that's adequate for the majority of parties involved. Again, if FC wants to let FE hitch a ride that's FC's decision (and props btw), but lets not pretend that there isn't an opportunity for FE to raid sky, it just seems your guild is not satisfied with an AM slot so you'd disregard the current situation and take whatever slot you feel like.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:41 PM
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Your guild had no interest in the rotation when this was conceived. Your guild is built around tracking targets and responding to batphones for said targets. That's not a knock against your guild, it's just how you choose to play the game. For you to show up late to the party and demand a slot during the hours that are currently occupied smacks of pretension and entitlement.
I know you don't like FE but this is silly. Zanderr has it right; we just need to double book the weekends.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:46 PM
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I know you don't like FE but this is silly.
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we'll just go up when we have the interest then.
Loraen, I think this is the reason Chest kind of took offense, as any guild who has consistently been raiding sky for the past year + would.
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Loraen, I think this is the reason Chest kind of took offense, as any guild who has consistently been raiding sky for the past year + would.
I disagree. FE is more or less politely coming in and asking to be worked into the rotation, and Chest is telling them to fuck off. No one wants to raid sky at 8AM. If you aren't going to make a reasonable effort to give them a piece of the pie then why should they respect your rotation?

The simple solution is to ask whoever goes on Saturday and Sunday to start at noon EST. This is hardly an outrageously early morning time, and that means that another raid can start at 8PM EST, especially if we can pair one full clear guild and one 1-5 guild.

On a side note, I think the fact that we have 8(!) guilds that are capable of doing the Spiroc Lord (who is basically as hard as any other boss outside of VP) shows you how overcrowded the raid scene is. This is why I keep thinking tokens are a good idea. If we had a rotation each guild would get to kill Sev (say) once every two months!
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