lurkers/new players: advice from a noob

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys who only play blue really have no idea what red is like... you have to actually play before you judge : / only true thing is population is lower and more fickle. But if you play blue and enjoy the pve.. well you can do more of that, and faster, on red... If pop is so low you would never see anybody who would PvP you! why not roll on red with your crew? Also the community on red is actually stronger in a weird way

Here is a classic example of the red mentality. Remember, the whole point of EQ is PVE. They saw how UO was turning into a no-holds-barred brawl and their goal was to create a kind of massively multiplayer DND. Challenge was achieved by giving the NPCs much bigger numbers than the PCs, making all the good loot very timeconsuming to acquire, and by giving the playerbase as few hints as possible. Now, who says "I want to do all that PVE stuff AND still have to deal with gankers and PKs and all the UO PVP stuff" ? Someone who is very fucking serious about the game. Because if you are a casual player on a server like this you are the sheep.

So, when you combine a group of very hardcore players who all derive a great deal of satisfaction from winning at EQ with some ganks and a whole fuck ton of OOC trash talking and issues of the Red Faggot Gazette, and you get a server that is serious fucking business. Winning over there is a big deal; witness Stasis trying to sell his rogue after he lost in the first round of the BOTB. And, to quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!".

But now imagine you are one of those very hardcore red players who puts a lot of effort into winning on that server. And then you look over at blue, and you see that a) their population is 10x yours and b) they think your server is a shithole. This is like an assault on your core values. And thats why we see all these "come to red so I can shit on you you loser" posts.

[skacat]

Very entertaining.

However, this was my point. I've been off EQ since Luclin was released, and never played an emu. I played blue during that time. I came to P99 a week or two ago.

I played blue for a few days, and then played red for a few days.

I found the red players to be much more friendly and generous. There's low pop at the low levels on both servers, and the XP bonus on red makes that more bearable.

The XP bonus seems to have inspired a few people to move as well. People will run a long way to group up with you at a low level.

With no XP loss and no item loot, on red you need not fear the griefer.

Now, there's plenty more to say about red vs. blue, whether or not PvP is just anti-EQ, etc. But my point is, red is a good place for a new player at the moment.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a classic example of the red mentality. Remember, the whole point of EQ is PVE. They saw how UO was turning into a no-holds-barred brawl and their goal was to create a kind of massively multiplayer DND. Challenge was achieved by giving the NPCs much bigger numbers than the PCs, making all the good loot very timeconsuming to acquire, and by giving the playerbase as few hints as possible. Now, who says "I want to do all that PVE stuff AND still have to deal with gankers and PKs and all the UO PVP stuff" ? Someone who is very fucking serious about the game. Because if you are a casual player on a server like this you are the sheep.

So, when you combine a group of very hardcore players who all derive a great deal of satisfaction from winning at EQ with some ganks and a whole fuck ton of OOC trash talking and issues of the Red Faggot Gazette, and you get a server that is serious fucking business. Winning over there is a big deal; witness Stasis trying to sell his rogue after he lost in the first round of the BOTB. And, to quote Seinfeld, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!".

But now imagine you are one of those very hardcore red players who puts a lot of effort into winning on that server. And then you look over at blue, and you see that a) their population is 10x yours and b) they think your server is a shithole. This is like an assault on your core values. And thats why we see all these "come to red so I can shit on you you loser" posts.

We're not serious fucking business, at least not more than blue (no matter what some red players say). It's a video game, and though it's a pretty hard one with giants in newbie zones and such, that's all it is. We have our trash talk and murderous elves; you have your trash talk and meanie raid guilds.

It's the same game we're playing, and if you have a solid group of friends to play with, either server is gonna be tons of fun. I think the initial reason for red doing poorly was lack of adventurous bluebies, and now the low population is causing the low population. There's some meanie twinks killing new players, but there have always been griffons and Sergeant Slates doing that in EC anyway.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the initial reason for red doing poorly was lack of adventurous bluebies

Sounds like somebody wasn't around for the release of red.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like somebody wasn't around for the release of red.

Very few bluebies took it seriously. They joined because it was new and exciting, but never intended to leave blue, and were gone from red after playing around there for a few months.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very few bluebies took it seriously. They joined because it was new and exciting, but never intended to leave blue, and were gone from red after playing around there for a few months.

Red is a piece of cake today compared to the Fuck Fest it was when it first started. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I even tried it again a few days ago, well I have tried it a lot of times since it started. Not much excitement with 30 people on in a PvP game. But it can be a lot of fun, and I can see why people play on it. But I have always liked to solo a lot and PvP is not very conducive to that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]