Proof Global Warming Exists!!!!

[BeelzeBob]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the sun is heating up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] other planets are getting warmer as well. Corn on the cob, baby! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by BeelzeBob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure where you heard that. Since solar irradiance has been in decline since 1990 and won't reach minimum until around 2038. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation

Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html
And reason we need global warming:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_g...ct_crop_yields

Meh to crops though, just means better beach weather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boy's in bikinis
Girls in surfboards
Everybody's rockin'
Everybody's fruggin'

Twistin' 'round the fire
Havin' fun
Bakin' potatoes
Bakin' in the sun

Put on your noseguard
Put on the lifeguard
Pass the tanning butter

Here comes a stingray
There goes a manta-ray
In walked a jelly fish
There goes a dogfish
Chased by a catfish
In flew a sea robin
Watch out for that piranha
There goes a narwhale
HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!

[BeelzeBob]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html

Somehow, I don't think the two known denialist sites you linked are accurately portraying the opinion of NASA climate science. You might want to try http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Solar irradiance

It's reasonable to assume that changes in the sun's energy output would cause the climate to change, since the sun is the fundamental source of energy that drives our climate system.

Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity is thought to have triggered the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland was largely cut off by ice from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps.

But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the sun:

Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly.
If the warming were caused by a more active sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gasses are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere.
Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases.

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by BeelzeBob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somehow, I don't think the two known denialist sites you linked are accurately portraying the opinion of NASA climate science. You might want to try http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Actually, considering recent claims from NASA administration - it seems science is last on the agenda.

http://www.space.com/news/nasa-chief...ft-100707.html

Plus, if there is *anywhere* an agenda or money making scam will take place now - chances are, it's rooted in 'government' somehow.

Government - to me is just about the LEAST trustworthy source of information anymore. So - yeah, I'd be inclined to believe some third-party site first.

Still - that being said, I think we are impacting the environment. but I don't think it will doom us all and I don't think any amount of green taxes will fix it.

EACH AND EVERY Person needs to be conscious and do their own part. Government will fix this problem - just like they fix other problems. They'll demand lots of money, create more red-tape and need more money.

Think this sums up 'government' fixing anything: "Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

[BeelzeBob]

Originally Posted by Overcast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, considering recent claims from NASA administration - it seems science is last on the agenda.

http://www.space.com/news/nasa-chief...ft-100707.html

Plus, if there is *anywhere* an agenda or money making scam will take place now - chances are, it's rooted in 'government' somehow.

Government - to me is just about the LEAST trustworthy source of information anymore. So - yeah, I'd be inclined to believe some third-party site first.

Still - that being said, I think we are impacting the environment. but I don't think it will doom us all and I don't think any amount of green taxes will fix it.

EACH AND EVERY Person needs to be conscious and do their own part. Government will fix this problem - just like they fix other problems. They'll demand lots of money, create more red-tape and need more money.

Think this sums up 'government' fixing anything: "Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

This perfectly highlights the problems scientists have in communicating with the public.

Originally Posted by Overcast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think we are impacting the environment. but I don't think it will doom us all

This was the only claim in your post that speaks to the data, yet judging from the rest of the content, I can only guess that it was not arrived at by scientific means.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ummm NASA? http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/n...lanet-warming/
http://www.livescience.com/environme...s_warming.html
And reason we need global warming:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_g...ct_crop_yields

Meh to crops though, just means better beach weather [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boy's in bikinis
Girls in surfboards
Everybody's rockin'
Everybody's fruggin'

Twistin' 'round the fire
Havin' fun
Bakin' potatoes
Bakin' in the sun

Put on your noseguard
Put on the lifeguard
Pass the tanning butter

Here comes a stingray
There goes a manta-ray
In walked a jelly fish
There goes a dogfish
Chased by a catfish
In flew a sea robin
Watch out for that piranha
There goes a narwhale
HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!

Rock Lobster = WIN

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rock Lobster = WIN

He was in a jam. He's in a giant clam!!!