rape jokes

[Daldolma]

what does a crime of opportunity have to do with anything? if you leave your front door unlocked and get hatcheted to death, you are not liable. and yet, the crime may never have happened if you had locked your door.

you're throwing around legal jargon you don't understand and drawing ridiculous parallels where they don't exist

passing out drunk and getting raped is not in any way comparable to driving drunk, aside from the obvious connection to alcohol

[Kagatob]

They both involve a choice and the one throwing legal jargon around is you.

You don't choose to drink and drive, you choose to get drunk and impair your judgement and while judgement is impaired you decide to drive. Legality or not, it's stupid and the situation was allowed to happen because of the choice to get drunk and have their judgement impared. The person drinking is responsible for what happened because of their negligence. This we agree upon.

You don't choose to get drunk and get raped, you choose to get drunk and impair your ability to resist someone taking advantage of you. Legality or not it's stupid and the situation was allowed to happen because of the choice to get drunk and have their ability to resist impared. Because there is another person involved the other person is 100% to blame and you don't see any negligence whatsoever on the drinker. This is the point of contention and you are ignoring many obvious parallels.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't choose to get drunk and get raped, you choose to get drunk and impair your ability to resist someone taking advantage of you. Legality or not it's stupid and the situation was allowed to happen because of the choice to get drunk and have their ability to resist impared.

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm pretty sure you're going to hell when you die.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm pretty sure you're going to hell when you die.

Are you implying that it's never stupid to get shitfaced? That drinking alcohol in excess is never a bad thing?

If not then please tell me what you are implying.

[Rhambuk]

hbb im a bit disappointed you only pulled statistics of men raping women, what about men raping men or women raping men women raping women.

tell me hbb, what do you have against men!?

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hbb im a bit disappointed you only pulled statistics of men raping women, what about men raping men or women raping men women raping women.

tell me hbb, what do you have against men!?

91% of rapes are committed against women, 9% against men. 99% of rapists are men.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

91% of rapes are committed against women, 9% against men. 99% of rapists are men.

of course but its just as equally terrible for a women to rape a man

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course but its just as equally terrible for a women to rape a man

In theory.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In theory.

white guilt white knight.
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[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They both involve a choice and the one throwing legal jargon around is you.

You don't choose to drink and drive, you choose to get drunk and impair your judgement and while judgement is impaired you decide to drive. Legality or not, it's stupid and the situation was allowed to happen because of the choice to get drunk and have their judgement impared. The person drinking is responsible for what happened because of their negligence. This we agree upon.

You don't choose to get drunk and get raped, you choose to get drunk and impair your ability to resist someone taking advantage of you. Legality or not it's stupid and the situation was allowed to happen because of the choice to get drunk and have their ability to resist impared. Because there is another person involved the other person is 100% to blame and you don't see any negligence whatsoever on the drinker. This is the point of contention and you are ignoring many obvious parallels.

so we're circling back to the point i made in one of my initial posts

you were implying and are now directly asserting that a rape victim has an obligation to resist, and by forfeiting the ability to resist, is in fact being negligent to the extent that he or she is partly or wholly liable for the rape

i do not agree. the ability to resist is largely beside the point. plenty of rape victims, both sober and drunk, fail to meaningfully resist their attackers for a variety of reasons. this is why we have adopted a standard of consent.

your argument is fluctuating between negligence and liability. is a person who drinks in excess and passes out generally negligent? yes. is that negligence liable for a rape? most certainly not