How to enable Luclin Graphics

[Phallax]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

No because its a part of classic...
Im one of those people that prefer looks over stats...for the most part. I wore totemic for ever because I refused to have the leather look on a barbarian with gator legs and foremans, absolutely hate the look, so used totemic untill I could replace with other chain/plate looking items. Still using totemic legs today because the only upgrade other than pathetic leather looking legs are planar and I havent been to hate in months.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No because its a part of classic...
Im one of those people that prefer looks over stats...for the most part. I wore totemic for ever because I refused to have the leather look on a barbarian with gator legs and foremans, absolutely hate the look, so used totemic untill I could replace with other chain/plate looking items. Still using totemic legs today because the only upgrade other than pathetic leather looking legs are planar and I havent been to hate in months.

I can respect that!

I remember decking out my high elf enchanter in things that used leather and plate graphics any time I could just to mess with people. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


EDIT: and yes because I looked cool.

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

I kinda lean this way too.

The old models give the game the 'classic feel' - personally. While personally, I have nothing against the Luclin models - I did like them ok..

Since I've looked for and finally found a place to play "Classic EQ" - I will in fact, play Classic EQ!

[dallammarr]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Itd a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by dallammarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Ite a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

Im not saying how it was meant to be on live, Im saying how P99 was meant to be played, with a classic, nostalgic feeling.

[soup]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

And when you do so, you still see it exactly how you want to see it, right? And if someone sees it differently, you never know the difference. Do you see people going "Damn.... I wonder if he sees me the way he's supposed to. I mean, he MIGHT see me as a Luclin model, and that makes things less fun for me."

How your character looks on other peoples screens when you never know the difference one way or another is such an incredibly trivial and asinine thing to worry about.

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not saying how it was meant to be on live, Im saying how P99 was meant to be played, with a classic, nostalgic feeling.

This is true, but, if someone finds enjoyment for different reasons, is that really so bad?

I mean, I hate Luclin models, but I can't even fathom caring if someone else wants to use them.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And when you do so, you still see it exactly how you want to see it, right? And if someone sees it differently, you never know the difference. Do you see people going "Damn.... I wonder if he sees me the way he's supposed to. I mean, he MIGHT see me as a Luclin model, and that makes things less fun for me."

How your character looks on other peoples screens when you never know the difference one way or another is such an incredibly trivial and asinine thing to worry about.


This is true, but, if someone finds enjoyment for different reasons, is that really so bad?

I mean, I hate Luclin models, but I can't even fathom caring if someone else wants to use them.

I think other than keeping it nostalgic, Dumesh made a very valid arguement as to why it effects the players that dont use models when others do.

Originally Posted by legendbyname [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you add a dial-up line to your computer to keep it "classic" too?

I was a lucky spoiled 19 year old and still lived at home with a job and payed for my own cable service. So never had to deal with dial-up on EQ, just UO.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think other than keeping it nostalgic, Dumesh made a very valid arguement as to why it effects the players that dont use models when others do.

And the problem is with his entire argument is he will never know the difference if someone is using different models. Like I said, I could go activate the models, even though I hate them, just to spite him, but it would be pointless because he would never know the difference, nor would anyone.