Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Known exploiters are not allowed to be quoted in a /thread.

Fail.

Jesus christ, we get it, she exploited a raid mob. Shut the fuck up about it already if it doesn't pertain to the point.

[Seuriu]

in my opinion, competition is the most nostalgic factor of everquest~

while i do agree that everyone should be able to enjoy the server, and sharing is always nice (and i've never had a problem with sharing as long as the majority of the rival guild weren't complete faggots), competition is what made this game great.

[rachel]

Originally Posted by Seuriu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in my opinion, competition is the most nostalgic factor of everquest~

while i do agree that everyone should be able to enjoy the server, and sharing is always nice (and i've never had a problem with sharing as long as the majority of the rival guild weren't complete faggots), competition is what made this game great.

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

You're one delusional human being. I'm not a professional football player but I don't cry because I don't have a super bowl ring. If you suck at EQ and can't kill raid mobs you shouldn't be allowed them. And you sure as damn hell better kill them legit instead of their AE abilities removed.

Trans 50-manned a broken MM that was pure melee and then ooced congratulating themselves on the server first legit kill. Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's being a faggot (not meant in a discriminatory way, just reusing the terminology used).

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're one delusional human being. I'm not a professional football player but I don't cry because I don't have a super bowl ring. If you suck at EQ and can't kill raid mobs you shouldn't be allowed them. And you sure as damn hell better kill them legit instead of their AE abilities removed.

Trans 50-manned a broken MM that was pure melee and then ooced congratulating themselves on the server first legit kill. Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's being a faggot (not meant in a discriminatory way, just reusing the terminology used).

One point you are missing however.

No one is denied the CHANCE to play football or to become a professional football player. You have by proxy appointed yourselves as the authority to who will and will not be able to do the end game raid content.

The GMS/Devs recognize that this will not promote a healthy community/server and stepped in. The QQ and butthurt posts/tells is just a sober reminder of how SERIOUS some of you LoSers take this game.

[Cykubis]

I remember a quote somewhere about tears tasting like candy... whatever. At any rate, this thread actually is one of the more pathetic things I've seen in a while.

Seriously, just look at the intensity of all these posts. I hate to break it to you, but we're not professional football players, we're not hiking Mount Everest, and we're not pioneering unknown territories - in a real or virtual world. We're fucking playing Everquest, and on content that is over 10 years old. I'll bet a third of the people posting here aren't even wearing pants.

Now you seriously believe that this is being competitive? Let's see, we can't kill each other, train, KS. So pretty much the competition is what, to mobilize in a zone the fastest? Well, no because in your little world it's OK to just jump ahead of people who are already organized for a kill. So then the competition is the first to engage? That sure sounds fun, two raids sitting on top of each other hoping that when the mob spawns he agroes them first. No, that would just come down to luck and no one could really be called the "best". That leaves FFA, where I guess the competition would be whoever has the highest single group dps group to KS the targets. Sounds pretty stupid, tbh.

Now I'm not saying that one side is right on this issue, these boards have been polluted by completely retarded nonsense by people on both sides of the argument. Honestly I'm fucking embarrassed that gms had to intervene and enforce a rotation, but if people don't want to take their heads out of their asses and actually come up with a compromise, we're probably going to be stuck being babysat even further.

As for this idea that GMs shouldn't have gotten involved. I'd love to believe that was true, but have you happened to look at ooc or the boards in the past month? The animosity between IB and Trans is toxic and will drive away a lot of players who just want to relive some nostalgia. I know it's hard for some of us to believe, but the server doesn't revolve around a single guild or their opinions on how the server should be ran.

Fuck, just because this is a game doesn't mean that we need to act like children.

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by Cykubis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember a quote somewhere about tears tasting like candy... whatever. At any rate, this thread actually is one of the more pathetic things I've seen in a while.

Seriously, just look at the intensity of all these posts. I hate to break it to you, but we're not professional football players, we're not hiking Mount Everest, and we're not pioneering unknown territories - in a real or virtual world. We're fucking playing Everquest, and on content that is over 10 years old. I'll bet a third of the people posting here aren't even wearing pants.

Now you seriously believe that this is being competitive? Let's see, we can't kill each other, train, KS. So pretty much the competition is what, to mobilize in a zone the fastest? Well, no because in your little world it's OK to just jump ahead of people who are already organized for a kill. So then the competition is the first to engage? That sure sounds fun, two raids sitting on top of each other hoping that when the mob spawns he agroes them first. No, that would just come down to luck and no one could really be called the "best". That leaves FFA, where I guess the competition would be whoever has the highest single group dps group to KS the targets. Sounds pretty stupid, tbh.

Now I'm not saying that one side is right on this issue, these boards have been polluted by completely retarded nonsense by people on both sides of the argument. Honestly I'm fucking embarrassed that gms had to intervene and enforce a rotation, but if people don't want to take their heads out of their asses and actually come up with a compromise, we're probably going to be stuck being babysat even further.

As for this idea that GMs shouldn't have gotten involved. I'd love to believe that was true, but have you happened to look at ooc or the boards in the past month? The animosity between IB and Trans is toxic and will drive away a lot of players who just want to relive some nostalgia. I know it's hard for some of us to believe, but the server doesn't revolve around a single guild or their opinions on how the server should be ran.

Fuck, just because this is a game doesn't mean that we need to act like children.

Quoting this for every page this manbaby argument continues.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you suck at EQ and can't kill raid mobs you shouldn't be allowed them.

This part I have to disagree with you on. Everyone on this server has every right to attempt any content they want regardless of whether or not the attempt will succeed. (Obviously a single group of level 30's should not be taken as a serious attempt at taking on Vox but within reason).

Who are you to decide who has rights to experience in game content?

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

Let's not act like there is one guild cockblocking everyone else from content. When I hit 40 I decided I'd like to get a manastone before they're removed. Glitch of Transcendence was on the camp, so I messaged her to ask to take it over when done, but she had promised it to Jeremy of Transcendence. When I messaged Jeremy he told me in no uncertain terms that I would not be getting access to the manastone camp until Transcendence was done with it, because they would just be passing it back and forth between their members until they had all the stones they wanted.

The next day Spectre (of transcendence of course) was on the camp, and he was to pass it back to Jeremy when he was done. Well he got 2 stones back to back before Jeremy was back online, and after I bugged him for a while about it agreed to pass it to me - but he did ensure I promised that I would get one stone and them immediately pass it back to Transcendence. I never did get a stone from the camp (fuck you evil eye), but did give the camp over to Jeremy when I had to leave for work.

Transcendence has no problem with dominating content to the exclusion of others when they're capable of it, just the same as IB is. As far as I can see they like the rotation primarily because it guarantee's them access to content they otherwise wouldn't be getting, not because they're just a generous bunch who wants to share content.

All this being said I hold no grudge against any Transcendence members since they're just looking out for their own interests and infact get along great with about 95% of their members that I've grouped with, which was many of them while I was leveling up. All I want people to take from this post is that Transcendence and IB are really about the same, they both want as much content for their own guild as they can get. In Transcendence's case that means the rotation is good, and in IB's case that means the rotation is bad.

[Seuriu]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

well yeah. friends share with friends, people do not share with people who they are not on good terms with. does that somehow not make sense to you?

the real issue here is lack of content at this point in time. there's not a lot of raid targets plain and simple and eventually that will change but not for awhile.
i'm all for giving guilds a shot to kill things and even doing a rotation since there is such a lack of content, if said guilds can kill it without exploiting or needing a second guild to win. that being said, i do not hold a leadership position in either guild (I'm not even 50 yet!) and i don't speak for anyone in my guild except myself~ /disclaimer.

everyone on this server is wound waaaaay too tight. you all need to relax. everyone playing on this server has something in common: we all love everquest. it'd be cool if we could stop being jerks to eachother 100% of the time.