not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly what I am saying and I think it's actually quite reasonable. Tracking is such a pointless waste of time that even if it were classic there would be pretty good grounds for removing it. But again, for the 1 millionth time: variance is not classic. Everyone who is defending variance (and this somehow, strangely, is all the players in the batphone guilds) is doing so purely out of self interest. We have a server where the compass is disabled as being not classic, but huge changes to the raid scene are allowed. That is the only relevant point.

I defended variance because the competition of mobilization is a lot more engaging than the competition of winning a FTE lottery and never having a real fight with a raid mob.

I also defend variance because variance has been in place here for quite some time and I don't think any reasonable person can expect variance to be removed, when so many people have dedicated so many hours of their lives to this server, where these rules have already been declared. To change variance, would be like changing any other core 'rule' on this server when you already have so many people who have poured hundreds of hours into this game knowing that those are the rules.

The only reason smaller guilds want variance removed, is so they can get the CHANCE to get loot that they normally wouldn't want to put any work towards. Sorry but that is the only reason. It isn't to "relive old memories" or "experience an epic Trak fight". I was in BDA and when the extended window change came out and I've never seen a group of grown men cry over not being able to do a trak poopsock "on the rare occasion when Chest demands it in Vent... loudly". It's not like they were even wanting to FIGHT the raid monster like so many people here are claiming they want to do, they just wanted to poopsock at the end of the window and engage in the FTE lottery for a CHANCE to get loot.

I'll just repeat this again: There are other emu servers where you can go kill all these old monsters all you want. Anybody is free to play on these servers.

I just can't believe how much whining and crying is going on ITT. It all boils down to grown men screaming "TMO ruins this server because they put in the work to get the best and most valuable loot in the game and we want them stopped or want to engage in epic 200 person poopsock FTE lottery games!!!"

All of you complaining about how you shouldn't have to track, or have alts parked, should've left this server long before getting 60 and realizing you wanted to get certain pieces of loot but aren't willing to put in the effort.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you complaining about how you shouldn't have to track, or have alts parked, should've left this server long before getting 60 and realizing you wanted to get certain pieces of loot but aren't willing to put in the effort.

unfortunately, those aspects of the end game aren't blatantly obvious to newbies, unless they enjoy reading through 60 page long rant threads.

maybe there should just be a sticky post that explains clearly what the end game is currently like here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kaleran]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of you complaining about how you shouldn't have to track, or have alts parked, should've left this server long before getting 60 and realizing you wanted to get certain pieces of loot but aren't willing to put in the effort.

You mean people who put in 100+ hours leveling, questing, and gearing up shouldn't get the right to get a shot at their epics because there are ~120 people on this server that have been ehre so long that they've bought a ton of alts to ninja every spawn?

FOR SHAME ON THOSE PEOPLE FOR NOT FINDING THIS SERVER 4 YEARS AGO!!!