Item loot for server growth

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't force your preferred style on everyone else and expect to have other people to play with. In all fairness, adding in item loot probably would hurt the population. We need to make some compromises if we want to avoid single player EQ.

What population? there's less than 80 people left active on this box and most hang in seb's all day.

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

I don't think an EQ server can be devoted to any one thing. The community can choose to devote themselves to pve encounters if they wish, but the opportunity for RP, making friends and like playing the market game is always there. Wanting incentive to pvp beyond winning camp rights and just having fun sounds too WoW for my tastes. We have real reasons to pvp, like earning scarce resources and fighting people that have become your enemy in some way. It's great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

Yeah my facetious comments seem to be misunderstood quite frequently. It's causing me a bit of a headache lately, and here I just thought I was being clever and funny.

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

Don't tell me what my purpose should be here. EQ isn't so limiting, even if you try to make it so. If absolutely everyone came here with the attitude you have, things would be really bland. PvP is great, but there's so much more to the game than just that. It was fun back in the day to tell people that they were too blue to play pvp, but now that we're actually hurting for players we might want to consider admitting to ourselves that playing a video game doesn't make us hardcore and that if we welcomed other styles of play instead of demonizing them we might have more people to play with.

Just my simple elfin opinion.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think an EQ server can be devoted to any one thing. The community can choose to devote themselves to pve encounters if they wish, but the opportunity for RP, making friends and like playing the market game is always there. Wanting incentive to pvp beyond winning camp rights and just having fun sounds too WoW for my tastes. We have real reasons to pvp, like earning scarce resources and fighting people that have become your enemy in some way. It's great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



Yeah my facetious comments seem to be misunderstood quite frequently. It's causing me a bit of a headache lately, and here I just thought I was being clever and funny.



Don't tell me what my purpose should be here. EQ isn't so limiting, even if you try to make it so. If absolutely everyone came here with the attitude you have, things would be really bland. PvP is great, but there's so much more to the game than just that. It was fun back in the day to tell people that they were too blue to play pvp, but now that we're actually hurting for players we might want to consider admitting to ourselves that playing a video game doesn't make us hardcore and that if we welcomed other styles of play instead of demonizing them we might have more people to play with.

Just my simple elfin opinion.

On Rallos Zek there was pvp everywhere until they added so much no drop gear pvp died and everyone went to Sullon.

On Sullon there was pvp everywhere until everyone realized we would get nothing from all those coins we were collecting, pretty much everyone re-rolled evil because what the hell is the point of pvp when you only get rewarded from pve. I didn't keep racks on stacks of coins in my bank because they looked pretty.

You give a reason to pvp everyone will pvp, you give a reason to pve everyone will pve, it's really a common sense thing. PvP server's on Eq were not for people to PVE and occasionally pvp there's an entire game devoted to those types of player's it's called WoW. EQ pvp was hardcore, merciless and unforgiving.

If that's not the type of pvp you want then your playing the wrong game, plain and simple. It's called project 1999 red there was one true pvp server in 1999 Rallos Zek there is absolutely no reason for a blue and red server where the goal is to pve dungeon raid!

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Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What population? there's less than 80 people left active on this box and most hang in seb's all day.

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

As far as people 'farming' seb or other kunark 50+ exp zones, Most of them are still exping up and getting loot is a benefit. Not everyone got to hit 60 right off the bat before the exp bonus was reduced and then put back in partially.

Blue is dumb, Even if you wanted to play solely for PVE its retarded. Granted I have only spent a little time on blue playing friends chars, Just the impression I got was "holy shit ide rather play on red with 100 people then blue". EC tunnel alone is redic, People sell names for plat. I saw someone named Edward and Alice Cullen with matching gear.. level 1-10s with fungi/fingerbones/CoF full rubicite everything. What do they do? Sit around all day in EC tunnel and show off/sell stuff big ticket items/accounts and flip flop from class to class. And they almost all have a fondness for anything 'unique' such as guise or firepot chars. Or like that 60 epic vp guise fp shaman thats going for an insane amount of plat.

I hear you can't even get dragon kills or anything unless you manage to get into the top guild since theres a few dozen guilds that knock out everything and it all comes down to some rules like whoever zoned in first or whatever. Kill boss and end up getting loot taken away and given to a guild who just sat there on their thumbs because 'they' had the claim first. That just doesn't cut it, I would rather steamroll over said guild then sit around debating loot.