not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[Herpa Derp]

Everyone makes it seem like doing any end game content is completely out of the question. I don't see how you wont have to work for it like you would have had to for any raiding guild in on live.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Herpa Derp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone makes it seem like doing any end game content is completely out of the question. I don't see how you wont have to work for it like you would have had to for any raiding guild in on live.

On live, once you got the levels in order you were required to go to a certain number of scheduled raids in a given period of time, the scheduled raids would be a short list of mobs that would generate the greatest gain for the guild as a whole in regards to time spent, other mobs were attacked and killed if the numbers happened to be available and were actually ran to because most players had one main and at most a single alt of level.

On project 1999 they have raid attendance % which while similar on paper in reality means that you literally need to be "on call" in order to make enough raids because every mob on the server is in contention and to be considered a "raiding guild" you need to have an individual raid force camped at every individual target, once it's found that a target has spawned (each 'raid guild' has 24 hour tracking on said targets) it's not a race to clear to and set up for the boss, it's a race to see who's pre-packaged raid force can log in first.

Dedicating your life to something and 'working for' something are not synonymous regardless of how much the neckbeards would like you to believe such.

[Herpa Derp]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live, once you got the levels in order you were required to go to a certain number of scheduled raids in a given period of time, the scheduled raids would be a short list of mobs that would generate the greatest gain for the guild as a whole in regards to time spent, other mobs were attacked and killed if the numbers happened to be available and were actually ran to because most players had one main and at most a single alt of level.

On project 1999 they have raid attendance % which while similar on paper in reality means that you literally need to be "on call" in order to make enough raids because every mob on the server is in contention and to be considered a "raiding guild" you need to have an individual raid force camped at every individual target, once it's found that a target has spawned (each 'raid guild' has 24 hour tracking on said targets) it's not a race to clear to and set up for the boss, it's a race to see who's pre-packaged raid force can log in first.

Dedicating your life to something and 'working for' something are not synonymous regardless of how much the neckbeards would like you to believe such.

I'm well aware the grip that TMO has on the high end of the raiding target spectrum, there are some other mobs that they don't poopsock that are worth the time to go after. I'm not saying there's a lot of them but is it also impossible to get into TMO? I highly doubt every last one of their raiders has six alts for camping.

This is from an outside perspective and I could be totally wrong but it'll always come down to your play style and how much time you can invest into the game. I'm not saying it's fair to rule out fully casuals that want to raid but that's the effect of releasing an emulator of an old ass game after a plethora of MMO's with raid content have been released. People are going to be conditioned from the raiding environments of the newer games and it's not going to be the same as it was in classic.

I don't think it's ok, nor am I elated about it but there's nothing that can really be done about it sans GM intervention or if people want to self enforce rotation. If you have the time and the willpower you can raid, but in many of the cases I've found you can't be a top end raider in any game and have a life and a job.

[Kagatob]

Here's another thing that isn't the same as classic. On the 3 live servers I've been on as well as the other emulated server I had raided in, there wasn't nearly the amount of hate and disdain for (or from, looking at people like Tiggles) the top guilds that there is on this server. Fires of Heaven came close on the progression server but I'd take them in a heartbeat over TMO any day or FE on some days. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Herpa Derp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is from an outside perspective and I could be totally wrong but it'll always come down to your play style and how much time you can invest into the game. I'm not saying it's fair to rule out fully casuals that want to raid but that's the effect of releasing an emulator of an old ass game after a plethora of MMO's with raid content have been released. People are going to be conditioned from the raiding environments of the newer games and it's not going to be the same as it was in classic.

I don't think it's ok, nor am I elated about it but there's nothing that can really be done about it sans GM intervention or if people want to self enforce rotation. If you have the time and the willpower you can raid, but in many of the cases I've found you can't be a top end raider in any game and have a life and a job.

There's a considerable difference between casuals on live and on here. Likewise, there's a significant difference between the extreme and high end here and that on live. P99 is a time sink and forces extreme and idiotic behavior (see RnF) that wasn't seen on live. Those who played in high end guilds on live would need to play (and track) exponentially longer to tackle the same targets or even have a chance at engaging them.

Therefore it isn't an EQ problem but rather specifically a P99 problem. It's the P99 rules and the GMs that have favored these methods for years while pretending to condone it, or at best turning a blind eye. It's gotten so bad that people like Tiggles and whoever the hell else from FE are going so far as to dig up peoples' names and addresses... Seriously? Meanwhile the "casuals" who were at the top of their respective servers on live would need to partake in all of this nonsense and spend an obscene amount of time (that was never required on live) to join in. Why would I want to bother? I've seen VP and NToV and have accomplished more on live with only a fraction of the time and effort that's required here. And what about the hope for reasonable change? Well, you need only ask Rogean why he decides to do a complete 180 when he promises a semblance of reasonable change that was needed years ago. Rather than getting something to address the biggest underlying issues that a vast majority of people agreed with, he decides that applying a bandaid to the problem and screwing over the largest majority of the players on the server is the better route.

Enjoy it and when you're bored just throw it away, because this is the same server and GMs who make changes to classic mechanics that affect every NPC in the game just to keep a few people from abusing third party software at a poopsockfest. If you think you can stomach the bullshit and spend a crazy amount of time on here then, yes, raiding is perfect for you. If, on the other hand, you're only here to have fun then enjoy it while you can and then throw it away.

[quido]

Zephany still mad he got rejected because everyone fucking hated him.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zephany still mad he got rejected because everyone fucking hated him.

sooner or later, the "ya'll just haters" argument makes you sound like a throwback to 90's rapper beefs. No one uses that argument anymore, you know. It is considered declasse. You sound strangely out of step with what normal rational people think these days. It seems to be your only reaction to criticism, the only arrow in your quiver, as it were. Are you retarded?

[quido]

Originally Posted by Enslaved [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mad? Sir, I believe it's one of the best things that has ever happened to me in a video game, and that is actually saying quite a lot. lol

pretty easy to say that now! one of the easiest "no"s we've ever had