Nocturne

[Hasbinbad]

I think you can't get more eloquent than Hitchens or Dawkins on the question of atheism, and even Dawkins is a self-admitted agnostic de facto, no matter how much they try to change the definitions of words.

I haven't heard anyone make a cogent argument on the subject that didn't originate with the thinking of these men, and they usually ignore tidbits like "god is just as likely as fairies"-dawkins in their cultish certainty and parroted positions.

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you can't get more eloquent than Hitchens or Dawkins on the question of atheism, and even Dawkins is a self-admitted agnostic de facto, no matter how much they try to change the definitions of words.

I haven't heard anyone make a cogent argument on the subject that didn't originate with the thinking of these men, and they usually ignore tidbits like "god is just as likely as fairies"-dawkins in their cultish certainty and parroted positions.

I dunno about any of that, I just know they write good books.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno about any of that, I just know they write good books.

I was referencing their debates, which I have spent many, many hours watching.

Both men speak incredibly well, and imho Dawkins speaks better than he writes.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you can't get more eloquent than Hitchens or Dawkins on the question of atheism

No Sam Harris?

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't heard anyone make a cogent argument on the subject that didn't originate with the thinking of these men

I'd take it one step further and postulate that Russell was doing it well before Hitch or Dawkins were out of diapers.