GMs deleting posts that criticise them

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you do not agree with a GM decision, you can send me a message about it. Fuck no we don't have to be open to criticism from anything players have to say. It is my right to delete you or your words, the same as any other moderator.

This sums it up ->>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnkFYTSeT_U#t=8m40s



Rogean answered this one, but I'll reiterate. You can make an appeal, or ask us questions about your account in petition/exploit portion of forum. No one is owed shit.



Says the guy who HAS been helped in the petition/forum portion of the boards while insulting our "system". Nice one .

See my post count? Think that all comes from the Bugs forum? It's from helping usually ungrateful idiots.


So let's go over this again.

Have a problem or question with your suspension/ban? ----> petition/exploit forums.

Have a problem with the GM who suspended/banned you? ----> petition/exploit OR private message to me.

And, last but not least... players do not tell GMs what to do. You must be used to playing WoW or some shit that you pay for. We don't give a fuck what you think. If you start a war with the staff, you WILL lose.

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From what I'm seeing, you responded to my IP exemption request (which I AM grateful for, even though we kinda stopped playing because of the lack of disciplinary action). The other issues (training, quest items being eaten, etc) remain unacknowledged and unread, so you can get off your high horse at any time.

You keep saying you don't get paid and don't have to listen to us yadda yadda yadda...but in doing so you're just letting probably the greatest EQ Emulator server ever created to go down the toilet with letting people run rampant in game, but censoring the people who bring up the lack of discipline or the problems on the forums. You're letting all your effort go to waste when you could just suspend the bad apples that are making people pissed off for a few days until you do manage to gather all the facts. Hell, suspend them for 48 hours, at least then people would shut up about you guys seemingly not doing anything, and quiet the favoritism bullshit.

[nilbog]

The server is just fine.

Its the fucking players that ruin it. Just like planet earth.

Ultimately, players assume they know everything. They don't.

We don't announce worldwide suspensions or bans for the 45kish characters we have in the accounts table. Does this resonate with you? We don't get paid, and ultimately I will spend my time developing content. If you expect us to read random rants and flames about what you *think* is wrong, when there is no petition, then it will continue to go unanswered. I have better things to do than try and find out the truth. Bring it to me with evidence.

you're just letting probably the greatest EQ Emulator server ever created to go down the toilet

Sorry you feel this way. We don't.

You're letting all your effort go to waste

Sorry you feel this way. We don't.

[JackFlash]

It's posts like this that make me never want to visit the forums again.....

/agree nilbog

[Phallax]

I know they discipline people, I personally witnessed it last night.

Reported a boxer, in game and via PMs to nilbog and rogean via IRC 10 mins later didnt see either of the 2 people I thought were boxing on, still havnt seen either of them on since.

So disciplinary action does happen, just because they dont keep a public log of it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know they discipline people, I personally witnessed it last night.

Reported a boxer, in game and via PMs to nilbog and rogean via IRC 10 mins later didnt see either of the 2 people I thought were boxing on, still havnt seen either of them on since.

So disciplinary action does happen, just because they dont keep a public log of it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

Oh and this was a pretty well known player as well, so throw favorism out the window.

[Feiel]

Originally Posted by girth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't act like you aren't wanking it right now to that.

I think it would be considered "flicking the bean".

Originally Posted by JackFlash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's posts like this that make me never want to visit the forums again.....

Thats why I generally don't go though the R&F Forum often.

[Aeolwind]

If you inquire regatding someone elses punishment, yes you will be ignored. At best youll get a resolved reply.

If you want to know more, ask the player involved.

[Bardzilla]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server is just fine.

Its the fucking players that ruin it. Just like planet earth.

Ultimately, players assume they know everything. They don't.

We don't announce worldwide suspensions or bans for the 45kish characters we have in the accounts table. Does this resonate with you? We don't get paid, and ultimately I will spend my time developing content. If you expect us to read random rants and flames about what you *think* is wrong, when there is no petition, then it will continue to go unanswered. I have better things to do than try and find out the truth. Bring it to me with evidence.



Sorry you feel this way. We don't.



Sorry you feel this way. We don't.

Thanks for everything you do for us. And thank you more for your position on this and several other issues. The one thing I hated most of all about 'that game that shall not be mentioned' was the feeling that if you got enough people to rally behind a cause, they would make the change/nerf, be it in the true benefit of players is argueable. The player base has no business making "the rules/mechanics", thats like giving the wolves a key to the hen house. You have set your vision, and have at least for my brief time here been consistent with that vision. Its not perfect, but the one thing EQ never was, was perfect.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server is just fine.

Its the fucking players that ruin it. Just like planet earth.

Ultimately, players assume they know everything. They don't.

We don't announce worldwide suspensions or bans for the 45kish characters we have in the accounts table. Does this resonate with you? We don't get paid, and ultimately I will spend my time developing content. If you expect us to read random rants and flames about what you *think* is wrong, when there is no petition, then it will continue to go unanswered. I have better things to do than try and find out the truth. Bring it to me with evidence.



Sorry you feel this way. We don't.



Sorry you feel this way. We don't.

Whenever I DO actually /petition in game, Cyrius answers it and just tells me to 'go post it on the boards', so I just defaulted to doing that as I thought that was the standard procedure.

You would think when an entire group petitions someone in game, and posts in the Exploit section, AND includes dates, times, and where we were it wouldn't be that hard to figure it out. We shouldn't have to have Fraps running constantly just to feel like there's some sort of justice being had.

I've got screenshots of someone in Wrathful Inquisition (Smakyn) straight out telling me that he and his friends have been petitioned a ton of times, yet there are no consequences because their guild leader is on the dev team, so you can't really tell me there's no favoritism going on.

In regards to 'having evidence'...take 2 minutes to check your logs. Dude hits X mob, other dude hits X mob, dude A gets the kill, dude b aggros several mobs, runs to X location, uses Feign Death, players X, Y, Z, Q are killed, dude b gets up, runs away. It's kinda difficult to take screenshots of being trained when you are either A) dead from said train, B) too concerned with getting away from said train, or C) trying to LoS caster mobs so you can FD.

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got screenshots of someone in Wrathful Inquisition (Smakyn) straight out telling me that he and his friends have been petitioned a ton of times, yet there are no consequences because their guild leader is on the dev team, so you can't really tell me there's no favoritism going on.

a) I'm not aware of any complaints against Smakyn doing anything wrong, either as his guild leader or as a dev
b) Try contacting an officer in WI or myself next time you have a problem with a member of WI
c) I'm not aware of any devs/GMs ignoring any complaints against any member of WI, in fact, if anything, we're under more scrutiny than everyone else precisely because I'm a dev

That said, proof or it didn't happen. I take a harsh view of any member of WI doing anything against server policy. I devote a significant portion of my time to this server, both as the leader of a guild and as a dev, and I have no tolerance for people who break the server rules. I also have no time for idiots who post "complaints" in RnF without attempting to resolve the issue via proper channels, and who make accusations against my guild or it's members without any sort of details or proof.