Raid Changes

[NergalTD]

As much as I like this idea, it doesn't address the fundamental issue that was raised in the other thread.

Prior to the enforced rotation, the rule was basically, "First in the zone with a raid force"...and the guilds in question were camping out 2, 4, 14 hours ahead on anticipated spawns.

If we switched to the method in this thread, the guilds would just go back to camping for days ahead of time, then some GM would have to come in and resolve who was here first...when both guilds had 15+ in the zone for more than 12 hours.

The root issue is not having enough raid targets and we're just going to have to deal with it until content expands to meet demand.

[Deanob]

Originally Posted by NergalTD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I like this idea, it doesn't address the fundamental issue that was raised in the other thread.

Prior to the enforced rotation, the rule was basically, "First in the zone with a raid force"...and the guilds in question were camping out 2, 4, 14 hours ahead on anticipated spawns.

If we switched to the method in this thread, the guilds would just go back to camping for days ahead of time, then some GM would have to come in and resolve who was here first...when both guilds had 15+ in the zone for more than 12 hours.

The root issue is not having enough raid targets and we're just going to have to deal with it until content expands to meet demand.

FFA means FFA not "First in the zone with a raid force".

Guilds could camp a 2 day -/+ spawn timer as long as they want doesnt mean that own anything. Come time to gathering, buff and engage is what defines FFA.

Just dont be pricks about it. If we can have a mutual agreement on a play nice policy there shouldn't be a problem. Otherwise Ban Hammer will come out on entire guilds (temporary of course).

[Wenai]

It is up to the community to discuss this and come up with ideas on how to tweak this. Please be sure to discuss details of when/how a guild can "claim" an NPC. We want specifics. Example: Guild A mobilizes in SolB and begins clearing FGs. Guild B notices Guild A and rushes to the scene. At what point does Guild A start this "120 Minute Window"? As soon as they clear all the FGs? As soon as they begin clearing the FGs? A certain spot in the clearing process? We need ideas/details for ALL encounters.

A simple "First to Engage" isn't going to work. So come up with some rulesets that will allow you guys to police yourself.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by NergalTD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The root issue is not having enough raid targets and we're just going to have to deal with it until content expands to meet demand.

How many people do you guys have exactly in your two guilds???

Not enough to meet demand? You have got to be kidding me.

Think back to live for a moment and how many players there were online on an average night. How many raid capable guilds did you have on your server?

This isn't about meeting demand. This is about greed. Certain people in both guilds simply want to have the very best items available currently in game in each slot and probably an alt or three with the very best tradable gear in the game.

I don't see why the GM's or the rest of the community should bend over backwards just so a few people can feel like gods among men before the next expansion comes out.

Admit it, some of you are simply rushing. It's a big race to see who's the first to have X amount of hit points or X int or whatever.

If you can already beat all the bosses with 1.5 groups of players than all this gear hoarding is not a need, it's a personal desire and nobody is having it.

Just my opinion.

[eqmaze]

Originally Posted by NergalTD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I like this idea, it doesn't address the fundamental issue that was raised in the other thread.

Prior to the enforced rotation, the rule was basically, "First in the zone with a raid force"...and the guilds in question were camping out 2, 4, 14 hours ahead on anticipated spawns.

If we switched to the method in this thread, the guilds would just go back to camping for days ahead of time, then some GM would have to come in and resolve who was here first...when both guilds had 15+ in the zone for more than 12 hours.

The root issue is not having enough raid targets and we're just going to have to deal with it until content expands to meet demand.

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