When will something be done about intentional trains?

[Rogean]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

[chtulu]

Who cares if they are in the same house using the same router/ip address?

I'm pretty sure if a perma ban on someone's account was threatened, the other person would be more then happen to give his buddy in.

[chtulu]

Well, if absolutely nothing can be done, then I guess vigilante justice is the only other alternative!

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

How do you fake a /report? Doesnt that go to the GMs logs of exactly what people said. I can see faking /log on, but not /report. Not callnig you a liar, just trying to understand how /report actually works.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's where the vast majority of you are wrong and when you scream fix it for something you are so ignorant about and then get angry at us for something you don't understand.

First, people do change IP Addresses to train. Other than that, there is no way to link someone to their main account.

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

The biggest disadvantage to this server being free is that we have no control over people simply making new accounts to grief with.

Then theres also proving that the train occured. You guys think this server is any worse than live? I still play live, and I can tell you, people get trained ALL the time. There is absolutely NO WAY for eqlive gm's to prove it other than catching someone in the act, or getting a /report of said person admitting to it, which we can't accept even on this server because /report's can be fabricated (Both on here AND on live.. why EQLive trusts them blindly is nothing short of stupidity on their part. I can incriminate someone on live just by faking a /report for something they never said.)

So in other words contrary to what you have said in the past you can and will do absolutly nothing about the douchebags that intentonaly train. Good to know

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in other words contrary to what you have said in the past you can and will do absolutly nothing about the douchebags that intentonaly train. Good to know

Someone doesn't know how to read.

But that's okay, let your ignorance lead you to believe that and go train people. Then enjoy your ban when we impliment our train detection system.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone doesn't know how to read.

But that's okay, let your ignorance lead you to believe that and go train people. Then enjoy your ban when we impliment our train detection system.

No actualy in the past you have stated when people came out and said they were gonna train that would "ban them"
such as here in this thread http://project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10725

and now you are saying that you will not. My reading compreshension is just fine perhaps your memory should be checked.
also you infered that I said somewhere in there that I would be training, guess it really is you who needs to learn how to read, Not I. because no where did i even come close to infering that I would ever be training. On the contrary i have been intentonaly trained reported it and see that nothing has or will be done about it and you in your statment confirmed that yes in fact even though you can do something about it you will not.

Guess you really need that memory and reading comprehension checked . not me. The ignorace abounds when you can not remeber your own words nor actualy read those typed.

[Quitis]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now lets say someone did train someone else with the same IP Address. How do we actually prove it was them and not someone else living in the same house/apartment/campus? Would you like to be banned for something a roommate did?

This question is actually very easy to answer. ABSOLUTELY.

A persons character is protected by username/password security that is known only to the owner of the account. It is their sole responsibilty to protect that security, and their full responsibility should they give that information to a third party and that third party make illegal use of said account. It doesn't matter who logged into your character, you are ultimately responsible for anything that happens, and are ultimately liable and bannable/deletable should something occur. No excuses, no iffs ands or butts about it. Stop unbanning people who use the excuse "my brother did it, so and so roommate did it, someone in my guild did it". Keep them banned, and force them to make a better choice with their next character that is called, DO NOT SHARE YOUR INFO. That is as simple a rule to follow as DO NOT TWO BOX now isn't it. And you wouldn't unban someone for 2boxing would you?

[Aandolaf]

Not to mention that most people who complain and blame their roomate/brother are probably lying.