Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most fair way to handle it would be to ignore the situation entirely from a GMs perspective. Yes it will result in leapfrogging, yes it will possibly result in killstealing, but it's a preferably alternatively to 4 guilds each waiting 1 month for their naggy kill and their CT kill, which WILL happen if we folllow classic timeline for kunark coming out in one year.

I come from both a PVP server and Township Rebellion on live, I understand where you guys are coming from and what you are trying to do. We used to whipe the server clean daily of anything that resembled a raid mob for no other reason than to prevent any other guild from getting remotely close to us (loot rotted about 90% of the time). We were extremely effective at this, and the GM's eventually got tired of it and forced rotations on us (Yes, GM forced rotations on live).

This is not live though, these are not new encounters and this is a nostalgic representation of a 10 year old game. Is 4 guilds getting 1 Naggy a month any better then 1 guild getting 4 Naggy and the others get nothing? No. There are 300+ people on this server, and they will eventually want to experience the raid side of things.

I fully embrace and expect other guilds to get into the rotation, and I will support it and even offer advice if needed. For me, killing Naggy at this point is about as exciting as heating up a pizza, but I enjoy watching others experience it for the first time. The people on this server came to relive or experience(for the first time) classic, including the raids, not to watch IB/Trans kill Naggy for the 36th time.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For me, killing Naggy at this point is about as exciting as heating up a pizza.

I dunno about you, but heating up a pizza is pretty damn exciting. Especially if its Digiorno... mmm...

[Finawin]

Originally Posted by Allizia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I come from both a PVP server and Township Rebellion on live, I understand where you guys are coming from and what you are trying to do. We used to whipe the server clean daily of anything that resembled a raid mob for no other reason than to prevent any other guild from getting remotely close to us (loot rotted about 90% of the time). We were extremely effective at this, and the GM's eventually got tired of it and forced rotations on us (Yes, GM forced rotations on live).

This is not live though, these are not new encounters and this is a nostalgic representation of a 10 year old game. Is 4 guilds getting 1 Naggy a month any better then 1 guild getting 4 Naggy and the others get nothing? No. There are 300+ people on this server, and they will eventually want to experience the raid side of things.

I fully embrace and expect other guilds to get into the rotation, and I will support it and even offer advice if needed. For me, killing Naggy at this point is about as exciting as heating up a pizza, but I enjoy watching others experience it for the first time. The people on this server came to relive or experience(for the first time) classic, including the raids, not to watch IB/Trans kill Naggy for the 36th time.

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[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/thread

Known exploiters are not allowed to be quoted in a /thread.

Fail.

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Known exploiters are not allowed to be quoted in a /thread.

Fail.

Jesus christ, we get it, she exploited a raid mob. Shut the fuck up about it already if it doesn't pertain to the point.

[Seuriu]

in my opinion, competition is the most nostalgic factor of everquest~

while i do agree that everyone should be able to enjoy the server, and sharing is always nice (and i've never had a problem with sharing as long as the majority of the rival guild weren't complete faggots), competition is what made this game great.

[rachel]

Originally Posted by Seuriu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in my opinion, competition is the most nostalgic factor of everquest~

while i do agree that everyone should be able to enjoy the server, and sharing is always nice (and i've never had a problem with sharing as long as the majority of the rival guild weren't complete faggots), competition is what made this game great.

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

[Reiker]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

You're one delusional human being. I'm not a professional football player but I don't cry because I don't have a super bowl ring. If you suck at EQ and can't kill raid mobs you shouldn't be allowed them. And you sure as damn hell better kill them legit instead of their AE abilities removed.

Trans 50-manned a broken MM that was pure melee and then ooced congratulating themselves on the server first legit kill. Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's being a faggot (not meant in a discriminatory way, just reusing the terminology used).

[yaaaflow]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

Let's not act like there is one guild cockblocking everyone else from content. When I hit 40 I decided I'd like to get a manastone before they're removed. Glitch of Transcendence was on the camp, so I messaged her to ask to take it over when done, but she had promised it to Jeremy of Transcendence. When I messaged Jeremy he told me in no uncertain terms that I would not be getting access to the manastone camp until Transcendence was done with it, because they would just be passing it back and forth between their members until they had all the stones they wanted.

The next day Spectre (of transcendence of course) was on the camp, and he was to pass it back to Jeremy when he was done. Well he got 2 stones back to back before Jeremy was back online, and after I bugged him for a while about it agreed to pass it to me - but he did ensure I promised that I would get one stone and them immediately pass it back to Transcendence. I never did get a stone from the camp (fuck you evil eye), but did give the camp over to Jeremy when I had to leave for work.

Transcendence has no problem with dominating content to the exclusion of others when they're capable of it, just the same as IB is. As far as I can see they like the rotation primarily because it guarantee's them access to content they otherwise wouldn't be getting, not because they're just a generous bunch who wants to share content.

All this being said I hold no grudge against any Transcendence members since they're just looking out for their own interests and infact get along great with about 95% of their members that I've grouped with, which was many of them while I was leveling up. All I want people to take from this post is that Transcendence and IB are really about the same, they both want as much content for their own guild as they can get. In Transcendence's case that means the rotation is good, and in IB's case that means the rotation is bad.

[Seuriu]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So sharing is based on your personal opinions of who is and isn't a faggot. Competition made this game hell and one guild cockblocks all the other players from enjoying the content.

well yeah. friends share with friends, people do not share with people who they are not on good terms with. does that somehow not make sense to you?

the real issue here is lack of content at this point in time. there's not a lot of raid targets plain and simple and eventually that will change but not for awhile.
i'm all for giving guilds a shot to kill things and even doing a rotation since there is such a lack of content, if said guilds can kill it without exploiting or needing a second guild to win. that being said, i do not hold a leadership position in either guild (I'm not even 50 yet!) and i don't speak for anyone in my guild except myself~ /disclaimer.

everyone on this server is wound waaaaay too tight. you all need to relax. everyone playing on this server has something in common: we all love everquest. it'd be cool if we could stop being jerks to eachother 100% of the time.