Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Pyrocat]

The problem is Transcedence will benefit from the lack of competition, because they were not getting 50% of the boss mobs previously. Now they are. They will keep that up until they're all proper geared and until they start having to share their spawns with another lower guild. Then they'll say "oh, no, we want to go back to competition" as soon as it doesn't suit them.

That's the problem most of IB has with this situation. It's fair only to one side, and that side will dump the "solution" as soon as they start feeling the heat of 3rd place.

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is Transcedence will benefit from the lack of competition, because they were not getting 50% of the boss mobs previously. Now they are. They will keep that up until they're all proper geared and until they start having to share their spawns with another lower guild. Then they'll say "oh, no, we want to go back to competition" as soon as it doesn't suit them.

That's the problem most of IB has with this situation. It's fair only to one side, and that side will dump the "solution" as soon as they start feeling the heat of 3rd place.

I disagree 100%. Under the previous system, IB was not going to be able to compete with showing up to mobs 14 hours in advance. They had over two groups there for 14 hours straight. It was seriously heading towards IB never... ever... getting another raid target. I think that is the thing that IB isn't seeing right now. Under the previous system whoever had the force there first got to claim the spawn. They would have claimed every raid spawn.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree 100%. Under the previous system, IB was not going to be able to compete with showing up to mobs 14 hours in advance. They had over two groups there for 14 hours straight. It was seriously heading towards IB never... ever... getting another raid target. I think that is the thing that IB isn't seeing right now. Under the previous system whoever had the force there first got to claim the spawn. They would have claimed every raid spawn.

We're ready to leave poeple at spawns for 7 days to deal with this non sense camping issue.

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're ready to leave poeple at spawns for 7 days to deal with this non sense camping issue.

A single person at the spawn wouldn't be able to claim it. We had specified that it would require a force. The definition of a force can vary, but for the most part at least two groups.

The point of inserting the rotation was not only because of IB threatening to KS. It was also to combat the ridiculous mis-use of the system that was in place.

[Allizia]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is Transcedence will benefit from the lack of competition, because they were not getting 50% of the boss mobs previously. Now they are. They will keep that up until they're all proper geared and until they start having to share their spawns with another lower guild. Then they'll say "oh, no, we want to go back to competition" as soon as it doesn't suit them.

That's the problem most of IB has with this situation. It's fair only to one side, and that side will dump the "solution" as soon as they start feeling the heat of 3rd place.

Actually we were. In the 2 weeks before rotations started Trans Killed Vox and Naggy, and IB killed Vox and Naggy. The rotations did not require anything because they were already being rotated. It just became official and we can schedule a raid without worrying about trains or a 14 hour camp beforehand (and don't tell me IB would not have done the same, you claimed naggy the week before at least 5 hours early by killing one FG with 9 people.)