Do pets break mez on this server? V2.0

[Quitis]

Originally Posted by apollyon arali [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting..

I puroposely tried to send pet on mezzed mobs and got message not able to attack..or something like that So im saying this is not correct and pets ..at least necro pet cant break mezzed mobs. Ive tried several times just to double check.


hrmmm

Ok time to explain pet mechanics 101 again.

MOST IMPORTANT THING TO LEARN. Your pet has a HATE LIST just like any other NPC in the game.

Your pet will ACTIVELY ATTACK EVERYTHING on it's hate list unless it is stunned, rooted out of range, or mes'd by the NPC on it's hate list.

Now lets talk about those nasty hate lists.

1. If you tell your pet to attack any NPC a check is made to determine if that NPC is attackable (Is it charmed, mes'd, or some players pet?). If it is attackable that NPC will then be placed on your pets Hate List. If it is not attackable the NPC will not go on your pets hate list and you will get an error message that your pet is unable to attack that target.

2. If you or your pet take any damage or agro from spells and abilities from any NPC, that NPC will automatically go onto your pets hate list.

3. If you tell your pet to /pet back off, your pet does not calm down, does not walk back towards you, does not stop attacking. The only thing that command does is WIPE THE PETS HATE LIST. It does that one simple thing and then, because the hate list is now empty for your pet, that is why all those other things happen. That is why it calms down, stops attacking and goes back to it's guard point or back to the player. Because you wiped it's hate list. BUT you must absolutely keep that hate list clear or it may re-agro. This is why you need to use the command multiple times to wipe that hate list.

So in conclusion. Your job as a pet class is to keep your pets hate list clear of all NPC's that are not the MAIN ASSIST. Failure to keep your pets hate list clear is what makes you a horrible pet caster.

Yes there is a mechanic in game, tied directly into /pet attack, that prevents putting NPC's on your pet's hate list, that are unattackable, and yes, that are Mes'd. But that is the only thing helping you do your job. Everything else is up to the pet caster.

[PhelanKA]

I'm not sure I understand why you suggest keeping pets on follow and not park. One of the worst things that can happen is a pet standing in a bad spot where a big pull could aggro him. It's much more controllable to park him a known safe spot where you don't have to get up and lead him around to a good spot after every fight.

IMO, you're over-complicating the issue.

[Vexden]

This is Deja Vu

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=10301

Mine was moved because of the way I put it, but that is fine, glad to know others are concerned too.

I have not played a mage much (one of the few classes I have not played past 50) but from what I understand with pets, making them sit I would think is almost like the same taunt as a player sitting. Setting to guard doesn't do much better, which is why I usually park the pet away from where mobs are being brought in, or fought at.

[Quitis]

Originally Posted by PhelanKA [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure I understand why you suggest keeping pets on follow and not park. One of the worst things that can happen is a pet standing in a bad spot where a big pull could aggro him. It's much more controllable to park him a known safe spot where you don't have to get up and lead him around to a good spot after every fight.

IMO, you're over-complicating the issue.

A caster would not sit to med in a bad spot, and since your pet follows you, it will also not be parked in a bad spot. The other reason is because if you are sitting and get agro'd, thus agro'ing your pet, you need to be able to quickly move across the room to another spot, and then have your pet come with you. Other than that is the reason I already mentioned, the NPC in question that has agro on your pet, being right on the spot that you parked your pet at will make clearing the hate list very very hard.

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by Quitis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A caster would not sit to med in a bad spot, and since your pet follows you, it will also not be parked in a bad spot. The other reason is because if you are sitting and get agro'd, thus agro'ing your pet, you need to be able to quickly move across the room to another spot, and then have your pet come with you. Other than that is the reason I already mentioned, the NPC in question that has agro on your pet, being right on the spot that you parked your pet at will make clearing the hate list very very hard.

In my years (yes, years) of experience as a necro it is much easier to just find a safe spot for pet and have him guard it. Never had a problem with this tactic. I have had a problem with keeping pets on follow because they don't always come back to the same spot. They also have a fairly long leesh concerning where they'll stop following you too. Could be 1 meter or it could be 5. I prefer to know exactly where my pet goes to when not aggro'd. This is a much better indicator than running him around looking to see if he stops following. If you're having problems breaking enchanters' mezzes, pick a new class is all I have to say.

[apollyon arali]

Not sure why you feel the need to post your 101

Originally Posted by Quitis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok time to explain pet mechanics 101 again..

So in short I was correct.

Pets cant be ordered to attack a mezzed mobs which I already knew.

Originally Posted by Quitis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes there is a mechanic in game, tied directly into /pet attack, that prevents putting NPC's on your pet's hate list, that are unattackable, and yes, that are Mes'd. But that is the only thing helping you do your job. Everything else is up to the pet caster.