Solo Classes... Chanter without Charm?

[zeval31]

Enchanter is really a group inclined class. xp'ing with charm is tricky and needs certain parameters (sow/jboots for safety, close to zoneline).
Back in the days I stop soloing after the first few levels, and never turned back to solo, as it was less efficient and above all less fun

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by zeval31 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enchanter is really a group inclined class. xp'ing with charm is tricky and needs certain parameters (sow/jboots for safety, close to zoneline).
Back in the days I stop soloing after the first few levels, and never turned back to solo, as it was less efficient and above all less fun

Indeed, but you can 'rune' yourself too.

One of the most effective 'tools' I found when charm soloing was to keep the mob you are fighting rooted as much as possible. If your charmed mob gets loose - mez it ASAP. That gives you more time to re-tash or whatever, then re-charm. If root held on your target, then you only have one mob to deal with - not 2.

Sometimes you can just charm without the mez, etc...

You can always mes the rooted thing you were fighting too. A short-timed low level mez is good for that.

If I recall, after you mez, you can re-charm all you want. If the charm won't hold longer than the mez - well, you needed to re-cast it anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Otherwise, it's usually cake for an enchanter to find a group. Or you can use your normal 'pet' - just take out lots of blues.. I did that a lot, just tash, let the pet get some agro and always be ready to summon another pet. For all the weaknesses the enchanter pets are, they were easy enough to re-cast.

[Malrubius]

My understanding is charm is underpowered (breaks very quickly) at low levels and overpowered (rarely breaks early) at high levels.

Also, CHA appears to have a much greater impact (at least at high levels) than it did in classic.

[Sigleaf]

Giving you a heads up.


I'm in same boat as you, played a necro on live and wanted to try chanter this time around. Well naturally as a necro you love soloing, chanter can't do that past 12 imo, least not effectively, so your left grouping.

Oh boy... grouping... I had several oasis groups and every idiot and their mother must play there because every time we got a 2+ pull and I would mez the add, some stupid necro or druid would dot the damn thing, causing me to get agro.... After countless deaths from others stupidity, I just rerolled a diff class. GL to you.

[Lazortag]

You can use charm to solo from the moment you get it if you have enough Cha. The exp is stupidly quick if you can get someone to give you clarity (though from 29 onward you can do it yourself) and if you invis yourself to break charm whenever your pets go to lowish HP (like, low enough to be killed with a DD). I never found it that risky and I mostly did it in the middle of Uguk.

[cornbread]

Lazortag, what do you think is enough CHA to do it effectively?