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Old 03-29-2013, 10:51 AM
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The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:54 AM
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The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.
Why would anyone /q while having aggro? If it's so as to be saved by relogging fast, this is an exploit. Sorry, but I don't see your point.

Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "those 10 seconds save my feign". Like FDing between AE casts from a dragon? That's not possible unless you had another client ready to log in. Which means you're using the fast login mechanism and IP exemption to drop earlier from game. In that case, you obviously know you're abusing it.

Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro, if you plan to relog soon after
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:49 AM
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Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro
I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:58 AM
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I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.
Indeed, pathing aggro isn't what I meant. Aggro as in being actively attacked / pursued / spell cast upon.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:53 PM
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What I mean is someone could break that feign with an AE in those ten seconds and get you screwed, but not if you drop prematurely.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:01 PM
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What I mean is someone could break that feign with an AE in those ten seconds and get you screwed, but not if you drop prematurely.
So what is the exact scenario for this?

(let's think, without IP exemption)

A monk goes in LoS of an engaged dragon, FD and /q
Question is: why would a monk do this? Monk would obviously die from this.

From my point of view, anyone doing this, is only to cheat death through unconventional ways.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:05 PM
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Monk is unaggro, sees homeboy training Hosh who has 25 seconds until he has LoS to set off the AE. Monk feigns, /quits.

If the monk is out of the game in 20 seconds, he lives.

If the monk needs 30 seconds, his feign is broken by AE, and he's most likely dead or charmed and then dead.

Would the timer then be 2 minutes because he gained aggro after /quit? I'm curious how this works.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:09 PM
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still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch
I wouldn't call this harmless considering the huge advantage it gives to people with IP exemptions on highly contested targets. Being someone without an exemption, I know I envy those with valid or falsified reasons to have one.
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