Name and Shame game

[Anesthia]

In a game that revolves around social networking, naming and shaming is appropriate and desirable.

Whether it's effective is another issue.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

Originally Posted by Anesthia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a game that revolves around social networking, naming and shaming is appropriate and desirable.

Whether it's effective is another issue.

I think so. Back in the day there was always a stickied blacklist thread at the top of one of the Brell forum sites. I myself (especially when I played on Rallos but even on blue servers) kept a black list. I also kept a list of those people who helped me out and I would go out of my way to help them if I saw them looking for something I could assist with. Having a level 65 cleric at the time I was in that position a lot.

People on the blacklist either got a no to rezzes or paid heavily in plat for them. Those who had helped me out coming up I would go to great lengths to get their corpse and rez them.

Seems like a small thing, but when you share your list with your guild and vice versa it starts to have an impact on people who are jackasses. When it's shared with the server it takes it even further.

I don't know how it was on other servers but if you screwed your rep on Brell you might as well reroll at that point. Sadly they implemented name changes somewhere along the way.

[Stormhowl]

Originally Posted by Sularus Oth Mithas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think so. Back in the day there was always a stickied blacklist thread at the top of one of the Brell forum sites. I myself (especially when I played on Rallos but even on blue servers) kept a black list. I also kept a list of those people who helped me out and I would go out of my way to help them if I saw them looking for something I could assist with. Having a level 65 cleric at the time I was in that position a lot.

People on the blacklist either got a no to rezzes or paid heavily in plat for them. Those who had helped me out coming up I would go to great lengths to get their corpse and rez them.

Seems like a small thing, but when you share your list with your guild and vice versa it starts to have an impact on people who are jackasses. When it's shared with the server it takes it even further.

I don't know how it was on other servers but if you screwed your rep on Brell you might as well reroll at that point. Sadly they implemented name changes somewhere along the way.

How effectively can a blacklist or permaban be when someone can just recreate a new account? Then there's the whole quagmire that is IP bans that has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum...

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Stormhowl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How effectively can a blacklist or permaban be when someone can just recreate a new account?

I'd say the effectiveness comes from people not wanting to continue starting over from scratch. If people are diligent and actually want to keep "those people" from being able to do what they do, they won't be able to reroll and continue to maintain their old contacts because hopefully one of those contacts will out the new character. And so on and so forth.

[Stormhowl]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say the effectiveness comes from people not wanting to continue starting over from scratch. If people are diligent and actually want to keep "those people" from being able to do what they do, they won't be able to reroll and continue to maintain their old contacts because hopefully one of those contacts will out the new character. And so on and so forth.

I'd imagine the people most notorious for this kind of behaviour (if the "outings" on the forum are to be believed) will help that person get their stuff back.

And besides, the people who are getting banned likely have nothing better to do than play EQ at work or don't even work to begin with, so rerolling is what, a couple week setback dpeending on class?

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Stormhowl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And besides, the people who are getting banned likely have nothing better to do than play EQ at work or don't even work to begin with, so rerolling is what, a couple week setback dpeending on class?

What it is is a start, and it's much better than nothing. The less convenient it is for people to be complete d-bags on the server the less likely that d-bags will put in the effort.

If we can save just one child, yadda yadda blah blah etc.

[Stormhowl]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What it is is a start, and it's much better than nothing. The less convenient it is for people to be complete d-bags on the server the less likely that d-bags will put in the effort.

If we can save just one child, yadda yadda blah blah etc.

Oh I agree with you. I'm mostly playing devil's advocate. Community led justice initiatives are the best way to go with what we have. But if we want a truly effective system, we need GM involvement. Unfortunately, for volunteers doing this in their free time, it's kind of hard to get that kind of commitment.

[Sularus Oth Mithas]

Originally Posted by Stormhowl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How effectively can a blacklist or permaban be when someone can just recreate a new account? Then there's the whole quagmire that is IP bans that has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum...

That's always an option, but how long before that person ends up on the list again with their new character? Not like they went to therapy to stop being a douche online and came back with a better attitude :P