"Classic" EQ, P99, and exploits versus emergent game play

[applesauce25r624]

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[Susano]

As you stated with the IP exemption being unfair due to not everyone having one, it's equally unfair to people who are simply ignorant of other exploits that don't require any such flagging on an account.

Without full dissemination of the details of an exploit, any use of it by the community will lead to imbalances on the play field. There are many people who play p99 who are not active users of the forum and would have no way other than word of mouth in game to learn these techniques.

[Loke]

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There are many people who play p99 who are not active users of the forum and would have no way other than word of mouth in game to learn these techniques.

I dont see that as a problem though, because if you look at these new tricks as emergent game play as opposed to an exploit, it is no different than any other aspect of the game where asymmetrical information exists. New monks to the game don't understand pulling until they learn how to do it through the forums or word of mouth. Same goes for new necros, bards, druids, wizards, etc who don't know how to kite. Being among the first to discover a new and better way to do something should afford those players an advantage over other players at first.

Eventually everything important from tricks to raid strategies are discovered by others and shared among the community, but I don't think it is right to view innovation and creativity as an unfair advantage simply because not everyone knows about them. If everyone who played this game had the exact same knowledge of the game, there would be little to differentiate good players from bad ones since knowledge and skill are essentially one in the same in EQ.

Editing to expand with an example: When DA began pulling island to island in sky after rez pulling nerf, at first we in IB had no idea how they were doing it. Myself, Rhalous and Kinsawt (I'm sure others were involved, I just remember us three mostly) spent a lot of time testing and theory crafting how they were doing it. We eventually figured out they were using bard bind sight song to transfer aggro from island to island. For the week or so they were able to use this without us knowing how it was done they had a huge advantage raiding in plane of sky. Was that unfair? None of us in IB thought so. They simply found a better way of doing sky. Was this an exploit or emergent game play? Where do you draw the line? These are the types of question I think we need to answer before we start trying to ban or suspend players.

[Jokesteve]

At first, I was gonna read. But then I clicked on the link and seen that essay and was like

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[ManticSquee]

I skipped the last paragraph so I could say I didn't read the whole thing. I probably should have skipped one of the middle paragraphs but it's too late now. I can see your point and from your examples I guess it just takes someone in charge to allow it. I can also see where people might not like your idea because it might be like opening a flood gate. It could get pretty annoying having people always pushing the subject by reasoning that the last item in question was allowed so why not this?

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