FE CLAIMS MOB IN VP

[quido]

TMO is a single voice.

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO is a single voice.

TMO leadership does not speak for the guild as a whole?

[quido]

Yeah, whenever alarti or eccezan or tiggles has a dumb post, we all have to approve it. Nothing gets said without 100% support from the guild.

[Stalahoy]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, whenever alarti or eccezan or tiggles has a dumb post, we all have to approve it. Nothing gets said without 100% support from the guild.

i lol'd

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, whenever alarti or eccezan or tiggles has a dumb post, we all have to approve it. Nothing gets said without 100% support from the guild.

Honestly can you blame people for having this perception? You have people like aforementioned making broad statements like "TMO does this/TMO does that/TMO will not/TMO has never." on a relatively consistent basis.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly can you blame people for having this perception? You have people like aforementioned making broad statements like "TMO does this/TMO does that/TMO will not/TMO has never." on a relatively consistent basis.

Some push in the other direction, but it never seems to stick.

[quido]

The relative frequency of such dumb statements should be a pretty good reason for not taking them too seriously.

The only person truly capable of speaking for us is Zeelot. And even then, I wouldn't take RnF too seriously.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The relative frequency of such dumb statements should be a pretty good reason for not taking them too seriously.

The only person truly capable of speaking for us is Zeelot. And even then, I wouldn't take RnF too seriously.

To someone who doesn't know the server as well as I do, the frequency is only more reason to believe the statements have merit. With the type "absolute" statements that those people make, it is not clear it is a joke. RnF maybe a joke to some, while others take it seriously. Whether you acknowledge it or not, you have certain members that take it upon themselves to make asinine statements for the whole guild. Now if those statements have any authority within the guild is anyone's guess, unless they are in the guild they have no idea.

[47shadesofgay]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some push in the other direction, but it never seems to stick.

Well regardless of what yourself, Quido, Versus, or any other TMO white knight attempts to say to paint a better picture of your guild, that's not going to be what sticks.


People are going to remember Alarti, Zeelot, Eccezan, and all of the other trolls much more than they're going to remember the good things. That's human nature.

And don't give me that "a few apples shouldn't spoil the basket" bit, because guess what, in the real world they do.

On top of that, your apples tend to be in leadership positions within the guild. You have earned the contempt people feel for you, and I dont think anybody feels the least bit sorry for you.

Pull up your big-boy pants and deal with.

[manwithaplan11]

Originally Posted by 47shadesofgay [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well regardless of what yourself, Quido, Versus, or any other TMO white knight attempts to say to paint a better picture of your guild, that's not going to be what sticks.


People are going to remember Alarti, Zeelot, Eccezan, and all of the other trolls much more than they're going to remember the good things. That's human nature.

And don't give me that "a few apples shouldn't spoil the basket" bit, because guess what, in the real world they do.

On top of that, your apples tend to be in leadership positions within the guild. You have earned the contempt people feel for you, and I dont think anybody feels the least bit sorry for you.

Pull up your big-boy pants and deal with.

I came to this server in april of 2012, so I'm very new still. Alls I really knew of TMO then was that everyone hated them and they were the top guild. I didn't understand why everyone hated them, I even went so far as to defend them everytime they were brought up in /gu or tells. I had numerous pleasant interactions with members through porting or trading, or Jeremy leaving KC TWICE in less than 5 minutes to come rez me at the EJ port in spot (lols embarrassing). I thought the hate was misguided and that people only hated them cause they were on top.

Then came the day where we, in Full Circle, decided to camp Inny. During this megalong poopsock, Eccezan, a known leader of TMO, ports up to Hate not once, but twice, for the sole purpose of auctioning off the mage staff MQ and to offer ports out. What kind of person does this? What kind of LEADER does this? And the most important question that I had, being a leader in FC, was what kind of leadership condones such behaviour? I was appalled. I now had my answer as to why they are so hated.

Upon leaving FC, I had two choices of where to app. TMO or FE. It was an easy decision. Even though most of my interactions with them were pleasant, their decision to have someone as obnoxious as Eccezan be a leader, and to have their guild leader/other leaders put up with such behaviour, drove me away.

So yes, the bad apples are certainly remembered more, and paint the respectable members with the same brush. I wonder how many other potential apps they have lost due to reasons such as these.

Also - Grats FE!! Can't wait to get my key and join in the fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]