Naive People are Dangerous

[killaessedai]

You mirrored xenu's thread after calling everyone morons, this thread in itself is veiled disrespect.
I agree with a lot of the points you are making, but being generalizations they are kind of misleading. Everyone is to blame for their own actions, but to pretend that there isn't factors that contribute is insanity. The contradiction is even in your post.

- Blaming random forms of entertainment for the actions of stupid people (movies, video games)
- Trying to find something to blame when the fault lies in this society's lack of emphasis on education, respect of one's fellow human beings, and lack of concern for others.

You say its stupid to blame random forms of entertainment because the fault lies in society's lack of respect of one's fellow human beings, and lack of concern for others.
Yet in a lot of ways our entertainment (music, violent video games, violent movies) contributes to our society having a lack of respect for fellow human beings and concern for others. Am i blaming these things? No, because the blame lies with the person.
I agree with your main point, but taking a perspective like yours almost destroys any possibility to talk of external factors that influenced someone's decision.

Another example is you say its stupid to blame drugs for a person's decision. There is a lot of crime that would have never been committed if not for drugs. Ultimately the person is to blame, but it's an aggravating factor that can't be ignored.

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Drugs are very powerful, you make the decision to take them, but sometimes the decisions made while on them are a lot different then the one you would make while not on them.

You can't just go oops its just stupid people, looking at things that happen that lead to people making horrible decisions is important.

[EchoedTruth]

Originally Posted by killaessedai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mirrored xenu's thread after calling everyone morons, this thread in itself is veiled disrespect.
I agree with a lot of the points you are making, but being generalizations they are kind of misleading. Everyone is to blame for their own actions, but to pretend that there isn't factors that contribute is insanity. The contradiction is even in your post.

- Blaming random forms of entertainment for the actions of stupid people (movies, video games)
- Trying to find something to blame when the fault lies in this society's lack of emphasis on education, respect of one's fellow human beings, and lack of concern for others.

You say its stupid to blame random forms of entertainment because the fault lies in society's lack of respect of one's fellow human beings, and lack of concern for others.
Yet in a lot of ways our entertainment (music, violent video games, violent movies) contributes to our society having a lack of respect for fellow human beings and concern for others. Am i blaming these things? No, because the blame lies with the person.
I agree with your main point, but taking a perspective like yours almost destroys any possibility to talk of external factors that influenced someone's decision.

Another example is you say its stupid to blame drugs for a person's decision. There is a lot of crime that would have never been committed if not for drugs. Ultimately the person is to blame, but it's an aggravating factor that can't be ignored.

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Drugs are very powerful, you make the decision to take them, but sometimes the decisions made while on them are a lot different then the one you would make while not on them.

You can't just go oops its just stupid people, looking at things that happen that lead to people making horrible decisions is important.

I can't possibly begin to agree with your point. While you make it eloquently - I grew up watching Aliens, Predator, all the bloody, violent, 80s and 90s movies, and games. I would never hurt a fly. I apologize to bugs if I have to kill them. The only time I would ever raise my hand in violence is to defend someone being attacked and/or myself. I grew up surrounded by violent games, movies, media, etc... and I would consider myself a very strong pacifist. I like violent games/movies because they give me an outlet for my frustrations (when I have them). I am the way I am because my mother raised me to respect and love my fellow human beings and other animals we share this planet with. If it were not for her, I would likely be different - not because of violent media, but because I lacked the strong foundation of mutual respect, appreciation, and peaceful nature.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by killaessedai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another example is you say its stupid to blame drugs for a person's decision. There is a lot of crime that would have never been committed if not for drugs. Ultimately the person is to blame, but it's an aggravating factor that can't be ignored.

Drugs are very powerful, you make the decision to take them, but sometimes the decisions made while on them are a lot different then the one you would make while not on them.

You can't just go oops its just stupid people, looking at things that happen that lead to people making horrible decisions is important.

It is stupid to blame the drugs/alcohol, it's the person's fault, nobody held a gun to the person's head and told them to get intoxicated/high in the first place, it's society's fault for even allowing the type of culture to exist in the first place. "Blaming society" is something different you might say? Not from what I'm looking at, it's a society of people, who are all contributing to the problem.

You will never, under any circumstance see me show any remorse or pity for anyone who tries to make themselves a 'victem' after deciding to go out binge drinking or shooting up which results in something bad happening. You're inviting disaster no matter what way you look at it.

Originally Posted by killaessedai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As long as violence exists in movies and games it will exist in this world. You're deluding yourself to think otherwise. I'm not saying remove all violent movies, but there will always be violence in this world as long as we continue to consume it like we do.

Gotta take out the internet and burn all of the history books then.

Part of the 'entertainment' is making a statement about the things that you aren't in fact supposed to do or more accurately, things that wouldn't be a good idea (both intelligently and morally) to do.