Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

Llodd · #1 03-19-2013, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure he said if a few of those guilds merged they could compete for the mobs. If you feel that means zerging that's your perception, or if you look at it rationally it could just mean that if you have a guild of 40 ppl and you merge with a guild of 40 ppl then it's more likely you could field 30-40 ppl to kill raid mobs when it pops. Just curious what is your raiding experience here on P99?

How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.

maverixdamighty · #2 03-19-2013, 05:44 AM

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How do they compete for the mobs? They have to poopsock and 24/7 track/batphone
Which requires stupidly large guilds with enough able to log in at a moments notice.

Now there are other alternatives to that, but unfortunately they require server cooperation. Something to which this thread pertains - and the answer from the GM is not exactly in the spirit of that is it. It was a terrible reply whichever way you look at it, not to mention uninspiringly unoriginal.

people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

finalgrunt · #3 03-19-2013, 05:55 AM

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people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

If you've been around and close to me since I started playing on p99, you would know the answer.
Let's say I wasn't advocating IB's policy, even after the merge. Got almost booted for that few times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (You would be hard pressed to find any occurence of me killing a poopsocked target. Because it never happened). But I also knew that I couldn't do anything to prevent it. Hyper competition is/was backed up by the staff, and clearly stated they wouldn't do anything to change it. There are some players who don't mind going full hardcore. Do the math. It's left to players to come up with solutions.

Today, I believe there is an opportunity with TMO & FE, and I'm just trying to get a reasonable request through. It's now in the hands of TMO to shake a hand on this, and help this server becoming a better place (while leaving an overwhelming ratio of the content available for hyper competition). Which I've come to accept. I don't agree with it, but that's because my classic experience differs from others, due to the server's nature I played on.

maverixdamighty · #4 03-19-2013, 06:15 AM

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If you've been around and close to me since I started playing on p99, you would knew the answer.
Let's say I wasn't advocating IB's policy, even after the merge. Got almost booted for that few times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (You would be hard pressed to find any occurence of me killing a poopsocked target. Because it never happened). But I also knew that I couldn't do anything to prevent it. Hyper competition is/was backed up by the staff, and clearly stated they wouldn't do anything to change it. There are some players who don't mind going full hardcore. Do the math. It's left to players to come up with solutions.

Today, I believe there is an opportunity with TMO & FE, and I'm just trying to get a reasonable request through. It's now in the hands of TMO to shake a hand on this, and help this server becoming a better place (while leaving an overwhelming ratio of the content available for hyper competition). Which I've come to accept. I don't agree with it, but that's because my classic experience differs from others, due to the server's nature I played on.

Fair enough was an honest question. Didn't see these types of threads back in the day sponsored by IB is all.

Llodd · #5 03-19-2013, 01:26 PM

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people still talking about poopsocking aren't in touch with the current raid scene. Daimadoshi my only question for you is were you championing this when you were in IB and they had the server content on lockdown?

well sure. The current added variance has shaken things up bit, but you know full well it existed and would exist again if that was removed. way to miss the point tho, a+

maverixdamighty · #6 03-19-2013, 02:29 PM

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well sure. The current added variance has shaken things up bit, but you know full well it existed and would exist again if that was removed. way to miss the point tho, a+

yes because talking about what used to be and is not any more makes an impact moving forward....F++++

Llodd · #7 03-19-2013, 04:21 PM

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yes because talking about what used to be and is not any more makes an impact moving forward....F++++

You're really going to roll with this?

How about not focusing on the "poopsock" part and go with the 24/7 batphone part. Then see where we end up ok? GO!

maverixdamighty · #8 03-19-2013, 04:44 PM

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You're really going to roll with this?

How about not focusing on the "poopsock" part and go with the 24/7 batphone part. Then see where we end up ok? GO!

not everyone wakes up for raids. reaching.

Llodd · #9 03-20-2013, 05:28 AM

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not everyone wakes up for raids. reaching.

Still refusing to address the point I see.

Yes not everyone wakes up for raids - which is the exact reason why guilds have to be so damn large to compete. So long as enough wake up its all systems go.

Now take a small guild that can only raid within a certain window. What chance have they to get a raid target? Which is one of the main driving forces behind this whole thread.

kotton05 · #10 03-20-2013, 03:54 AM

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You're really going to roll with this?

How about not focusing on the "poopsock" part and go with the 24/7 batphone part. Then see where we end up ok? GO!

poopsock doesn't exist with current window....

as for removing fte, I don't think that'll happen, a shout maybe.

Current FTE rule is good imo.

Batphone/tracking is fine too, if you wanna see what a non variance target looks like port up to Sky on sunday late morning east and watch (Dojo).... TMO wont ever rotate that target, its an fte crap shoot all the way, rather annoying.

I think a week leaving one mob untracked could work tho. It wouldn't be like a once a month thing imo, more like special occasion. Also with FE in vp our attention will leave other targets walking the mortal planes for a bit longer. VP vs TMO isn't a quick raid. I think here in the near future a guild willing to step up and focus on one mob like draco/maestro/fay maybe will get it.