The Hole pick up raid

[Danth]

Note that since you're a Shaman, you don't have to kill High Scale Kirn. Of course you may find it more fun to do so, but strictly speaking he's totally optional. The wife skipped that part of her epic quest. If you decide to go, I can probably come if you go during the right part of the day so do update this thread once you settle on a time.

I know The Hole like the back of my hand. Three groups will be overkill for all but a couple named (like Master Yael). One group of high 50's or two groups of low 50's should suffice for what you want to do. The wife and I are able to duo the majority of the zone. Of course more people will give you a higher kill rate and better survivability in the event of a bad pull. On the other hand, having more people increases the odds of having that bad pull in the first place, so it's a balancing act.

There are some annoying things you have to look out for, like Cleric mobs casting complete heal through walls. This is particularly annoying in the city area. In general the most important job will be pulling; the pull order is crucial. In some areas it's perfectly possible to pull the wrong mob and bring 5-8 things down on top of you. Nearly everything flees, even the undead, so you want snare as well. There are many casters and splitting can be a chore. I don't enjoy pulling from the city area and the wife and I largely avoid the two tower regions. Ideally you want both a good puller and good crowd control. In this sense good crowd control basically means a high level enchanter or two. Many of the creatures, particularly the rock golems and high level undead (wanderers), can be somewhat magic resistant.

The Enchanter epic turn-in guy is usually up. The Shadow Knight epic stuff in there tends to be stuff you have to camp for awhile so I doubt a raid will want to do that. I forget what the Paladin epic needs.

Danth

[HallygukRZ]

Did Kirn with my guild a week ago. I salute you for doing it the proper way! Too many shamans just faction grind CoM which I think spoils all the fun.

And because of that, I'm telling you how you can avoid the long and hard city fights. Make sure Master Yael isn't up and then jump down in Paineel. Have a cleric use DA to survive the jump and some of the others will survive it too. Mezz/kill the two agro roamers while rezzing those who died. You'll be at the undead tower within 15 minutes.

Good luck mate.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by HallygukRZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...I salute you for doing it the proper way! Too many shamans just faction grind CoM which I think spoils all the fun.

And because of that, I'm telling you how you can cheap out on a whole lot more of the "intended" encounters! Good luck mate.

Just poking fun ... I did it the "hard way" on live. Once was enough... I just want my mana-free dot, kthx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[HallygukRZ]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just poking fun ... I did it the "hard way" on live. Once was enough... I just want my mana-free dot, kthx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha, touché [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Guess it was more of a balanced recommendation, then.