Asking a favor from the two top guilds on the server

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally did not attend that event, even though I was online, and in fact, I asked other guild mates to boycott going up there. I did feel that they had put in the effort and time, and that stepping on toes as it were was against exactly what I am speaking about above. Lets not pretend however, that TMO was the only guild that went up there... I believe BDA was there as well? (Again, i'm not sure who all was, as I wasn't there) even to later have people claim that "we were going up to support FC" which was a BS claim from people not in FC to try getting around being douchebags.

1) I'm so fucking sick of this from the mass invite guilds "well my guildmates did that and I don't agree with it, you can't really compare me with soandso" - that's bullshit. You condone the behavior by continuing to be guilded with them. I'm part of a guild that polices our members. If someone guilded with me does something that doesn't align with how we do things then they get to find a new guild. It's called having standards.

2) I personally brought up a BDA force to get FTE on behalf of Full Circle after we heard that TMO had showed up. We had been avoiding Hate for days because we knew Full Circle was in it for the long haul.

[AenarieFenninRo]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) I'm so fucking sick of this from the mass invite guilds "well my guildmates did that and I don't agree with it, you can't really compare me with soandso" - that's bullshit. You condone the behavior by continuing to be guilded with them. I'm part of a guild that polices our members. If someone guilded with me does something that doesn't align with how we do things then they get to find a new guild. It's called having standards.

2) I personally brought up a BDA force to get FTE on behalf of Full Circle after we heard that TMO had showed up. We had been avoiding Hate for days because we knew Full Circle was in it for the long haul.

This is extending into R&F material, so i'm going to say let it go from this thread in the interest of the OP. My post, was that of my own opinion, not related to my guild. Please dont lump other's opinions in with mine, nor mine in with others. You can still remain somewhat autonomous within a guild.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is extending into R&F material, so i'm going to say let it go from this thread in the interest of the OP. My post, was that of my own opinion, not related to my guild. Please dont lump other's opinions in with mine, nor mine in with others. You can still remain somewhat autonomous within a guild.

Again I disagree vehemently but I'll drop it. Also, Tiggles does not speak for TMO. Zeelot is the only person that can approve TMO cooperation so this is all null and void until he (or his guaranteed representative) weighs in. I speak for BDA, and we'd like to see something better for the raid scene, but personally I feel that nothing will come from this. Just look at my post history, I've proposed infi ideas to fix things but no one wants to play ball.