Classic SOE Overnerf

holkan · #1 07-01-2010, 10:20 AM

Classic has alot of flaws and alot of things were changed but the developers rae here to make it as classic as possible the good and the bad. It sucks that its gonna take awhile to catch my friends up to my character now but its their server and this what they want to do with it.

Oogmog · #2 07-01-2010, 10:27 AM

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Classic has alot of flaws and alot of things were changed but the developers rae here to make it as classic as possible the good and the bad. It sucks that its gonna take awhile to catch my friends up to my character now but its their server and this what they want to do with it.

I can understand that, however, one dev has already said to the public he will not alter pet class experience gains because he's in favor of solo/boxing. With this change, its going to force the best DPS right now to solo more and further cripple groups. If one change is made to experience, I would strongly urge both for the sake of balance and classic .. or just revert back and keep it how things were before everyone's panties got twisted up in a bunch.

holkan · #3 07-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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I can understand that, however, one dev has already said to the public he will not alter pet class experience gains because he's in favor of solo/boxing. With this change, its going to force the best DPS right now to solo more and further cripple groups. If one change is made to experience, I would strongly urge both for the sake of balance and classic .. or just revert back and keep it how things were before everyone's panties got twisted up in a bunch.

While I dont like the change either, maybe people should just focus less on the exp bar and more on playing the game. I have a lvl 50 char now and I dont even really log on because theres really nothing to do on him I'd love to raid, but since the mobs can spawn round the clock its kind of inconvenient to raid at 4am or not know when to log on. If anything it taking longer to get to 50 will make the game more of a time sink so I dont get burned out as fast with nothing to do.

Arkis · #4 07-01-2010, 10:38 AM

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While I dont like the change either, maybe people should just focus less on the exp bar and more on playing the game. I have a lvl 50 char now and I dont even really log on because theres really nothing to do on him I'd love to raid, but since the mobs can spawn round the clock its kind of inconvenient to raid at 4am or not know when to log on. If anything it taking longer to get to 50 will make the game more of a time sink so I dont get burned out as fast with nothing to do.

I personally have not tested exp gain yet because of lack of time. However, that isn't really fair of an argument. If exp rates really are not correct and should be reverted, then they should be. When the game is about getting experience and loot, it's kind of hard not to focus on the exp bar.

To me, each level is a new "high", especially as a bard with new songs and new toys to try out. If you get burned out due to nothing to do at 50 and like to just "play the game", start a new character. To some people, this exp change might just burn them out because of the grind. However, if this is truly classic, then keep it in.

holkan · #5 07-01-2010, 10:46 AM

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I personally have not tested exp gain yet because of lack of time. However, that isn't really fair of an argument. If exp rates really are not correct and should be reverted, then they should be. When the game is about getting experience and loot, it's kind of hard not to focus on the exp bar.

To me, each level is a new "high", especially as a bard with new songs and new toys to try out. If you get burned out due to nothing to do at 50 and like to just "play the game", start a new character. To some people, this exp change might just burn them out because of the grind. However, if this is truly classic, then keep it in.

Oh I agree , but I highly doubt they would mess with XP to such an extent without it being classic or having a VERY strong notion that it is indeed classic and have no intent on reverting it. I too am a really min max guy (only wanting to level in the best xp spots chain pull etc) and maybe I'm being biased since I already have a character at the cap, but having it there and having nothing to do really makes me appreciate the leveling process and want it to take a bit longer really on my next character around.

Landis · #6 07-01-2010, 10:34 AM

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I can understand that, however, one dev has already said to the public he will not alter pet class experience gains because he's in favor of solo/boxing. With this change, its going to force the best DPS right now to solo more and further cripple groups. If one change is made to experience, I would strongly urge both for the sake of balance and classic .. or just revert back and keep it how things were before everyone's panties got twisted up in a bunch.

Right, and it's not just DPS. Other than mages and necros, enchanters and druids will also be better off soloing rather than grouping with hybrids.

rioisk · #7 07-01-2010, 12:03 PM

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Classic has alot of flaws and alot of things were changed but the developers rae here to make it as classic as possible the good and the bad. It sucks that its gonna take awhile to catch my friends up to my character now but its their server and this what they want to do with it.

Flaws? Good and bad? Wheres my procing sword of runes on non-summoned mobs? Give me that and I won't care about this XP crap because I know THE GOOD AND BAD ARE IN.

theblaz · #8 07-01-2010, 12:07 PM

I remember eq from the start and I honestly thought exp was a little faster on p 1999 , .. after the changes recently, if it is slower, that would seem to me to be more in line with how I remember classic being.

(Since I have been solo'ing the last few levels , I would not notice a difference, so to me, it is all the same... )

My memory isn't always great, so perhaps I am wrong about the xp rates from classic...

-Blaz

**Aeolwind** · #9 07-01-2010, 12:16 PM

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I remember eq from the start and I honestly thought exp was a little faster on p 1999 , .. after the changes recently, if it is slower, that would seem to me to be more in line with how I remember classic being.

(Since I have been solo'ing the last few levels , I would not notice a difference, so to me, it is all the same... )

My memory isn't always great, so perhaps I am wrong about the xp rates from classic...

-Blaz

You aren't. The leveling speed will still probably be somewhat faster than classic. 35 in classic took me about about 17 hours to clear in the Pool room in SolB.

Oogmog · #10 07-01-2010, 12:21 PM

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You aren't. The leveling speed will still probably be somewhat faster than classic. 35 in classic took me about about 17 hours to clear in the Pool room in SolB.

In classic, true classic, every other room was camped and you were lucky to pull 10 mobs per spawn cycle too. Also, more than likely, you weren't using a well balanced group either.. enchanters were extremely rare and bards who knew how to play their class well didn't exist. 59 took me 72 hours straight in Sebilis which 59 is easily 10x the length of a level such as 35(required 10 blue mobs to even move the blue bar in a full group).