FE knowingly KS's TMO's Trak, Rushes to complete keys and Epics

Alarti0001 · #1 03-09-2013, 03:00 PM

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wow already 768 post for another shitty thread? lets push to 1,000!

You still owe me 1hour of plvl!

maverixdamighty · #2 03-09-2013, 03:11 PM

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You still owe me 1hour of plvl!

alarti talking about other ppl owing him anything...lol. bet rogean absolved him of that pl session!

Alarti0001 · #3 03-09-2013, 03:37 PM

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alarti talking about other ppl owing him anything...lol. bet rogean absolved him of that pl session!

No sirken tried to award it to India. This GM intervention needs to stop.

Speaking of intervention... you need one.

maverixdamighty · #4 03-09-2013, 03:52 PM

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Speaking of sig changes... you need one.

FIFY

arsenalpow · #5 03-09-2013, 04:28 PM

TMO only offered up Tal, Gore, and Sev.

Tal drops nothing relevant, they offered up Gore because they didn't think anyone could kill it, and Sev stopped being offered when they realized green scales fetched a premium price.

BDA offered up everything at least once. One of our Dojo's we gave away had a brass knuckle that Raenin from Div now wears. Many Trak BPs went to other guilds.

Can't really compare the two sharing plans.

AenarieFenninRo · #6 03-09-2013, 05:13 PM

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TMO only offered up Tal, Gore, and Sev.

Tal drops nothing relevant, they offered up Gore because they didn't think anyone could kill it, and Sev stopped being offered when they realized green scales fetched a premium price.

BDA offered up everything at least once. One of our Dojo's we gave away had a brass knuckle that Raenin from Div now wears. Many Trak BPs went to other guilds.

Can't really compare the two sharing plans.

It was never a question about equality, nor was it a question of what the mobs had, it was a question of having given up raid targets. The statement was that we hadn't, I have shown that we have. I have also shown how people pissed on us for doing so, which is why we stopped. BDA ALSO gave up mobs, not trying to discount their contribution in any way... they did it. FE has never tried, but claims that if we would, they would... we already have... they haven't, so trying to make that claim is false.

As for how we went about offering the mobs up to the server, why we did it, who benefitted, how long we did it for, and what mobs it was on... it doesn't matter

Per Jack Nicholson -
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

and Zeelot has ordered a Code Red Mt. Dew before...

baramur · #7 03-09-2013, 05:30 PM

TMO white knights of p99

Splorf22 · #8 03-09-2013, 05:34 PM

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I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

I'm sorry but this is ludicrous. Are you seriously suggesting that the primary purpose of TMO is to make the server a better place for everyone? You guys are out for yourselves, just like everyone else on the server.

Frieza_Prexus · #9 03-09-2013, 05:39 PM

As an aside, I've long been a proponent, within the internal TMO dialogue, that we should greatly expand the endangered species list to all targets on a rotating basis excluding Trak and Phara`Dar.

However, I've noticed that when outsiders raise the banner of indignation internal resistance to the idea increases dramatically. This is not to say that the server brings it upon itself. Not at all. This is simply an observation, use it as you will. When we're accused of being patronizing for having the list at all, people want to kill it. When we're accused of being control freaks for only sharing table scrap mobs (say, outdoor dragons), people want to stop the list. When we're accused of being anti-social children for killing every target, people want to lock it down harder.

The more you rally against someone, the harder they'll push back. Every time TMO is vilified (rightly or wrongly), a specific mentality is inflamed. Certain actions and statements, however justifiable, true, or untrue, are adding fuel to the fire.

Food for thought.

Mortiiss · #10 03-09-2013, 07:50 PM

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It was never a question about equality, nor was it a question of what the mobs had, it was a question of having given up raid targets. The statement was that we hadn't, I have shown that we have. I have also shown how people pissed on us for doing so, which is why we stopped. BDA ALSO gave up mobs, not trying to discount their contribution in any way... they did it. FE has never tried, but claims that if we would, they would... we already have... they haven't, so trying to make that claim is false.

As for how we went about offering the mobs up to the server, why we did it, who benefitted, how long we did it for, and what mobs it was on... it doesn't matter

Per Jack Nicholson -
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

and Zeelot has ordered a Code Red Mt. Dew before...

We haven't had a chance to even think about sharing mobs or giving other guilds attempts because you guys have been breathing down our necks since our guild was formed. Its come to stab you in the ass, though, because you made our raid force faster and stronger - thanks TMO for going head to head! Kudos on a job well done.

Moving on, you say you shared mobs and link posts about it. Timestamp check anyone? What's that? An entire year ago? I'm sorry, but your argument is weak. Was TMO sharing these mobs when going head to head with IB or any of the other raid guilds that were on top?

Our claim isn't false. Time frames matter. Guilds breathing down your neck since you attempt your first Trak ever matters. Like I've said countless times before:

We will keep showing up. We aren't going anywhere. See you next spawn.