My America

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When the US army comes up north here on some bogus terror alert to come and steal our water and kill my nephew, thats when ill put my life on the line, and nobody is gonna need to pay me nothing.

Instead of preventing an issue, you would rather wait until something happens and THEN scream patriotism.

"I don't care about anything else in the world, as long as it doesn't happen to me I don't care!"

"You killed my 'soandso' omg rage i'm going to kill you now"

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead of preventing an issue, you would rather wait until something happens and THEN scream patriotism.

"I don't care about anything else in the world, as long as it doesn't happen to me I don't care!"

"You killed my 'soandso' omg rage i'm going to kill you now"

Thats what ive been doing in this thread... prevention. Thats what ive been doing for most of my adult life. But deep down i think its a waste of effort, mainstreet america is hopelessly lost in Foxnewsland. The US is draining its water at a crazy rate and when theyll run out of it theyre just gonna come here and take it, like theyre doing now with the oil in the middle east. Its like a blackhole folding on itself and Canada is going to get swallowed alongside it.

This quote from George Orwell illustrates my feelings at this point in time:

Everything one writes now is overshadowed by this ghastly feeling that we are rushing towards a precipice and, though we shan't actually prevent ourselves or anyone else from going over, must put up some sort of fight.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The US is draining its water at a crazy rate and when theyll run out of it theyre just gonna come here and take it, like theyre doing now with the oil in the middle east. Its like a blackhole folding on itself and Canada is going to get swallowed alongside it.

Well it's pretty much like this, if one country doesn't do it, another will. It's just delaying the inevitable end of the planet after the resources are used up.

It's what countries have been doing for years, taking over other countries because there is something there they want. Like, when Russia took over Afghanistan (and then the Taliban took it back over after years). They were hailed as heroes in their country, and then shortly after, the Taliban turned out WORSE than when Russia took over. Prevention, if Russia was prevented from taking over Afghanistan it would be possible that the Taliban would never have ever risen up to the position that they are in now. Then possibly, the US never would have had a "reason" to go over to the middle east etc etc.
I'm not going to get into it, but everything that is done has a snowballing effect.

It's going to happen one way or another, but prevention is just a delay to the eventual outcome of things.

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's going to happen one way or another, but prevention is just a delay to the eventual outcome of things.

Or we could manage water and eco-systems sustainably but NOOOOOOOO! you had to be QUAID!

[Xenephex]

Taxi, do you also put all the Canadian soldiers lying in graves in Normandy in that toilet of yours? Or do you think they were wasting their time since they were thousands of miles from home.

Of course, since the only piece of 'hard' evidence you have actually produced (the rest is mostly propaganda crap that would make Michael Moore blush) is the list of U.N. Vetos by the U.S., and since that list primarily focused on Vetos regarding Israel, I suppose it's possible you think the holocaust was not that big a deal. Hard to figure out exactly where you're coming from.

Orwell also said, "People sleep peacefully in their beds because rough men are willing to do violence on their behalf."

Seriously, insulting all those who have risked (and often lost) their lives for their countries places you beneath contempt. To summon up one more quote - this from Joseph Welch to Senator Joseph McCarthy during the Army-McCarthy hearings of the 50's (another episode I'm sure you love to trumpet):

"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Xenephex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously, insulting all those who have risked (and often lost) their lives for their countries places you beneath contempt. To summon up one more quote - this from Joseph Welch to Senator Joseph McCarthy during the Army-McCarthy hearings of the 50's (another episode I'm sure you love to trumpet):

"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

I stand by my picture of that guy trying to lift his head high with the rest of his body submerged in a toilet. There is plenty of soldiers who arent proud of what theyve done as soldiers and they dont need me to post some ironic picture to understand that, but it seems Alawen does.

In fact, i think thats the saddest part of soldier life i can think of. That some soldiers, faced with the reality that theyve lost their limbs, their friends, part of their sanity, killed people who had done nothing to deserve it, just to make some people who dont care about them in the least rich, they prefer to dig their heads in the sand and condemn more young people to the same fate.