My America

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why are people standing around watching willful destruction of private property? I would have felt obligated as a concerned citizen to stop that senseless violence.

Many did try and stop it. A number of concerned citizens were injured attempting to stop those that stepped out of the black bloc formation to permit acts of vandalism.

From an enforcement perspective it is easier to control the damages than it is to police potentially violent opposing factions. You have to limit your variables.

The other issue with citizens stopping it is the technique of black bloc itself. In black bloc you get out of the black and back into your streetclothes in the mob so it is impossible to distinguish individuals. This makes it almost impossible for law officials to distinguish concerned citizens from plainclothes black bloc members. Black bloc uses this technique to protect their own members, while endangering every day civilians that attempt to stop them.

As soon as a civilian is injured for being anywhere near the black bloc, private presses roar over police brutality. I'm sorry, involvement in a mob situation, either to attempt to stop it or abet it, carries risks. The police can't tell the difference between someone that tries to stop black bloc, or assist it.

What I can tell you is that law enforcement officials didn't look at how to break black bloc up ahead of time. If they had their response could have been much more effective.

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Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I can tell you is that law enforcement officials didn't look at how to break black bloc up ahead of time. If they had their response could have been much more effective.

Its not like they need a manual for it. There was so much manpower and brutality available that a few hundreds people dressed in black is nowhere near a threat. Why did the police let them trash up the place? Like i said before, its the same pattern every time. They let people smash stuff up (wether they are protesters or police undercovers) and then they move in and arrest, beat up, disperse everyone else.

I dont subscribe to that view that police were incompetent. They were competent, they did what they were there for. Justify their 1 billion dollar tag price and intimidate, beat up, harass, arrest legitimate protesters and journalists.

People often think this is just radical protester bullshit. I did too until i saw cops intentionally hurt people with crazed smile on their faces, run after random pedestrian on horses and attempting to baton them on the head, people sitting down getting their glasses crushed on their faces. In Quebec city in 2001 at the summit of the americas, the neighboorhood was so drenched in CS gas that an old lady died in her appartement suffocating.

We are losing our democratic rights in general in the western world. The politicians are pushing in more and more anti-democratic laws in the name of combating "terrorism". If that doesnt sound familiar, it should because its how the nazis came to power. Again it sounds funny, look at that crazy person, talking about nazis. But the things ive witnessed personally in the last 10 years makes me very afraid that if we dont fight for our democratic rights very soon, we will enter a dark age of police states in the western world that will end who knows when. The elites have been doing it to natives, to the rest of the world for centuries, now its us, their own population. We are the enemy.