Old screenshot of EC wars on RZ

[SamwiseRed]

because spawning oom without your corpse isnt consequences?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tbo xp loss is absolutely necessary because without it there would be NO consequence to dying in pvp as it stands now, but it is severe as hell because xping is so godawful slow

thus xp needs to be boosted and the best way to do so is a massive group xp buff to foster cooperation and help melees.

Item loot is the sting we need, not exp grind penalty. Something to benefit the killer and hurt the person who dies. It also has a nice effect of gathering all the sheep in one spot showing peoples true colors.

[Nirgon]

I see Nuerox using Kunark spells and successfully being a strong character in his Velious raid force and pvp group.

Note that the people he's killing (some at least) have Velious raid gear and primals. Wizard provides pet cc, guaranteed 2 slot dispel (annul), defensive shadow step, and of course even in light of all the new Velious weapons, you just can't knock the old #1... the terminator... lure of ice in a classic resist system.

I'd say the same in my experience as a Velious wizard. Not to mention ISOS (ice spear of solist) was a vicious and sudden curtain call (see his Yazzt kill).

Rogue, druid, warrior, monk and mage here are scoring kills and appear to be strong as well in the hands of skilled players. Not even going to bring up bards, clerics... every fucking class can be good, some stronger situationally (depending) than others.

If you're catching my drift... I'm not scared of being a caster or any other class whatsoever if classic resists and item loot are (and should be) added here.

Right now? Lol @ many. And the xp grief system is a great way to hurt population numbers and people's desire to log in and play (pvp!).

[hagard]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

these pics make me sad about how fun live was and how not as fun red is

srsly

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see Nuerox using Kunark spells and successfully being a strong character in his Velious raid force and pvp group.

Note that the people he's killing (some at least) have Velious raid gear and primals. Wizard provides pet cc, guaranteed 2 slot dispel (annul), defensive shadow step, and of course even in light of all the new Velious weapons, you just can't knock the old #1... the terminator... lure of ice in a classic resist system.

I'd say the same in my experience as a Velious wizard. Not to mention ISOS (ice spear of solist) was a vicious and sudden curtain call (see his Yazzt kill).

Rogue, druid, warrior, monk and mage here are scoring kills and appear to be strong as well in the hands of skilled players. Not even going to bring up bards, clerics... every fucking class can be good, some stronger situationally (depending) than others.

If you're catching my drift... I'm not scared of being a caster or any other class whatsoever if classic resists and item loot are (and should be) added here.

Right now? Lol @ many. And the xp grief system is a great way to hurt population numbers and people's desire to log in and play (pvp!).

Well I'm not sure of your play time but I'm assuming you would be one of the players to benefit from gear being more important. I don't think skill is as big of a factor in EQ as many claim. I think the old resist system helps those that invest more time in this game no matter what class you are. Every game should have this, reward from time invested, but the current system already has that and it doesn't need a larger gap.

In a game where spells take 3-7 seconds to cast skill isn't what it takes. It just takes effort and one guy in a group who is willing to put the time in to be organized and shouting out commands. The tedious act of having the right potions/clickies on you, buffing yourself in the correct order and being patient gets confused with skill in this game.

[Nirgon]

I have no raid gear, no planar. All my shit would be droppable.

Comparing my gear to Vaamp and Hectorchrist's at this point would be comical.

It doesn't create a gear gap it creates a skill gap.

As Hijinx pointed out, the scared bitches who can't pvp will be running around in no drop getting dirt napped. The skilled players will benefit from and risk their resist gear.

If anything (no offense to anyone) this is going to be in both party's favor, leaning towards the talented pvp squads.

I'm not casting root anyway because I'm not a scrubby and really am trying to force my play style to be classic for real enjoyment.

Try using zoning mechanics like you might in LoL or DotA2 in your EQ play... consider cast times and positioning. If you think there's no skill, you are bad. Period.

[Tomatoking]

aaaand another happy screenshot thread turns into the same old red99 thread about exp loss

can you hear the crickets? i can !

ps , funny how nirgon did no dmg in those pics , bet he wasnt even in range rogue did it all P

[Loli Pops]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Fix pvp resists based on classic formula I posted, make code source public.
2. Take out xp loss
3. Add item loot
4. Make pvp 4 levels static every level for FFA (read: not teams) server

[hagard]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think there's no skill, you are bad. Period.

[Tomatoking]

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