How good is a Manastone really?

[Noleafclover]

Originally Posted by PhelanKA [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jboots>Manastone IMO. I'll take a positive constant over a system that requires positive compensation for it's drawbacks any day. The Manastone is situational whereas the Jboots are always a benefit, no matter what.

I'd take both though if I could [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SoW pots > Jboots =p

[aresprophet]

Originally Posted by VincentVolaju [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do that again, but with a Druid this time. <3 lol

It's a good item. Chloro + SLN + sitting = 15 hp per tick = 1 stone every 4 ticks = 5 mana per tick. It's about 2 mana per tick at 34 with just Regen.

You can also "preload" those ticks of mana, stoning down to about half hp and letting it regen up while you med. Shortens med times significantly.

But the main draw of a manastone to a quadding druid is how it extends your mana pool. If you don't have a manastone at 34, you cannot quad spectres without a lot of medding during the kite. You'll simply run out of mana. With a MS at 34 it's doable but difficult if you have less than 200 wis. MS allows you to make quad pulls without having FM if you rely on the stone to push your mana pool up for the last few nukes. I run around 1200 hp which gives me up to 400 extra mana in my pool for quads. But HP converts to max mana for druids with a MS, while for clerics it converts to mana regen. Mana regen trumps a bigger mana pool every time.

Clerics CH changes the use of manastone entirely, but druids make good use of it.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Manastone is fantastic for rezzing. With self buffs i'm at 2250 hp. With shaman buffs i'm at 2650hp (I have a +HP set for outside planar rezzing).

cheal = 400 mana
stone is 60 hp for 20 mana
1200 hp to = 1 cheal
anything above 1200hp is pure gain from stone -> cheal
so for 2250 i have 1050 or 17 ROUNDED DOWN, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ROUND DOWN =x.
17x20=340 mana per stone / cheal. Takes about 30 seconds to stone down / cheal--it vastly out paces medding.

With shaman buffs:
2650hp -1200 hp (cheal break point) = 1450 hp
24 stones
24x20=480 mana per stone / cheal. Two stone / cheals and you're beyond that of the cost of one rez in about a minute.

In summation: It's a cleric item solo, but i've seen quite a bit of use with it with a cleric +1 combo. With an enchanter partner who can turn 500 mana or so (as he's not funding the cheal but has substantially less hp) it served us quite well duo'ing efreeti lord, where resists can happen and being oom can be a huge problem.

Enjoy. I'm still waiting on sky but i may skulk around in a bit ~_~

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sick to death of trying to convince people of the truth. Sell your fucking manastone if you don't like it.

P.S. Taluvill and I are two of the top ten druids on the server.

Ha. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would go farther than that, to say top 5, but yeah. Pretty much.

But i love how the guy is a druid and everyone has turned this into a cleric cheal thread = P

[Crover_CT99]

Aw, come on. Thread title says "how good is a manastone, really" - which we answered, both within the context of the item, and in the case of a few posts, in the context of a druid.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Crover_CT99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aw, come on. Thread title says "how good is a manastone, really" - which we answered, both within the context of the item, and in the case of a few posts, in the context of a druid.

Aye, i just wanted to show the value of a +HP set for manastone rezzing. It's enormous--cuts it down by a few cycles. I'll never get my lustrous russet gloves though, /qq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by ooantipostoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizards can just epic shield and keep stoning.

Endless mana ftw.

I cant imagine playing one without it when epics are released. it's a shame because by that time, its gonna be a pita to attain one if you dont have alrdy.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by JayDee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Endless mana ftw.

I cant imagine playing one without it when epics are released. it's a shame because by that time, its gonna be a pita to attain one if you dont have alrdy.

atm it appears manastone isn't damaging runes (enchanter runes, which are functionally the same as the epic). It appears you may have a problem come kunark o_O

[Gnada]

Manastone is fantastic for Druids and Clerics right now. As a druid, I make great use of mine all the time, it saves me tons of time which is absolutely invaluable to me. We'll worth the plat I spent, and as a druid at level 50, making plat is very, very easy. It's a good investment, as it makes that easier.

[nicemace]

my stone gives me tons more mana as an enchanter.

troll illusion is the bomb.

troll + chloro + SLN = sex

ill generally stone once or twice after each spell while waiting for cooldown before casting next spell.