Drama

[soup]

Originally Posted by ClamSmasher22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was a poor agreement. If you only wanted one spawn and would release the camp, why wouldn't they help you do it? It would get you out of there much faster and they could move back to what they were doing. It's because they were hoping you would fail and they would then take it. Seems obvious to me, agreement or not.

It's not surprising to me that they moved in after you zoned. I've had people take camps after my group wiped. Sometimes it gets out of hand, everyone dies/gates then goes back down. I would be pissed if someone else was already there, -especially- if was one person soling instead of a group getting exp.

I'd do the same thing. Except I wouldn't make an agreement, I'd call you an ass and tell you I hope you fail.

Then I would /t lol when you zoned and my group would move in.

This would be way more reasonable than making a deal and then just tossing it out. Either say fuck off we aren't offering a thing, or make a deal and stick to it. You think he would have zoned to regen his pet if the group said "fuck off" to his deal? No, he would have sat right there, knowing they would move in otherwise. Instead they made a deal, he made the mistake of thinking they wouldn't be shady about it, so he decides to zone to regen the pet because it's quicker. Then he comes back to find they were in fact being shady.

[President]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would be way more reasonable than making a deal and then just tossing it out. Either say fuck off we aren't offering a thing, or make a deal and stick to it. You think he would have zoned to regen his pet if the group said "fuck off" to his deal? No, he would have sat right there, knowing they would move in otherwise. Instead they made a deal, he made the mistake of thinking they wouldn't be shady about it, so he decides to zone to regen the pet because it's quicker. Then he comes back to find they were in fact being shady.

I really don't see how letting someone zone while they are attempting to clear a camp TWICE is shady. It seems pretty clear also he did not let the group know of his near-exploit strategy to take the camp either. The fact the group let him zone twice before deciding he obviously couldn't hold the camp properly is pretty nice of them, and It was even nicer of them that they let him roll on the sword which he lost.

But that's pretty cool of you Mr. Enchanter to not believe that a full group was doing a CR and taking a mith 2h for your alt/sale over someones main.

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see how letting someone zone while they are attempting to clear a camp TWICE is shady. It seems pretty clear also he did not let the group know of his near-exploit strategy to take the camp either. The fact the group let him zone twice before deciding he obviously couldn't hold the camp properly is pretty nice of them, and It was even nicer of them that they let him roll on the sword which he lost.

But that's pretty cool of you Mr. Enchanter to not believe that a full group was doing a CR and taking a mith 2h for your alt/sale over someones main.

I agree the decent thing to do is to give up the camp to a full group, specially if they say they were doing a CR. Would the group have done the same though if the situation had been the other way around? Camp checks are not always infallible, this is why you win/lose camps. It's all speculation but my money is on the group to tell the enchanter to get bent if the situation had been reversed. Can you imagine? Oh charm broke wrong time, I was doing CR but it was my camp....

There's no "decency" in camping anything. If you get a camp legitimately (of witnessing a group/person fail at retaining a camp), then you should keep it. Making sketchy deals to sketchy people then making a sketchy post is not the way to go.

[President]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree the decent thing to do is to give up the camp to a full group, specially if they say they were doing a CR. Would the group have done the same though if the situation had been the other way around? Camp checks are not always infallible, this is why you win/lose camps. It's all speculation but my money is on the group to tell the enchanter to get bent if the situation had been reversed. Can you imagine? Oh charm broke wrong time, I was doing CR but it was my camp....

Very true also. I highly doubt I would ever give a camp back to an enchanter if I had someone in the group that actually needed what was dropping in that camp. I can't tell you how many times, especially before the camping rules went in, that I got a group together to go down to camp FBSS/YAK only to find an enchanter clearing the whole downstairs who was AFK during my three camp check's. Although infuriating, I never attempted to fight the enchanter for the spot, even when he wasn't "at the camp" but at one of his other 3 rotating spots.

[Deeps]

intentional training should be bannable of course, but, i long for ffa. I feel like this server is evolving into some kind of weird camping nightmare. Ks'n and stealing camps with a more powerful group just sounds like good clean fun to me. The way things are reminds me of basketball players and european football players who act like they get shot any time they get into contact with anything. Thats real competition, otss, only the strong survive.