Drama

[Stepy]

"IMO, I think its lame that 2 or 3 classes and 6 people get to solo the six good camps in the zone, I think solo'ers should have to step aside for group s of 4 or more, but, that really has nothing to do with this i guess."

I believe the opposite if it can be done solo then the group should leave and find suitable group camps. ;P [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It wasn't his camp anymore because the group he made a deal with stole it from him, rofl

No, because he failed to retain a presence at the camp when he zoned. Jesus Christ. Okay, now you're just trolling. Have fun claiming camps that you aren't even in the same zone as, and making agreements on camps you don't hold the rights to, if that's what your conscience allows you to try and do.

[ClamSmasher22]

It was a poor agreement. If you only wanted one spawn and would release the camp, why wouldn't they help you do it? It would get you out of there much faster and they could move back to what they were doing. It's because they were hoping you would fail and they would then take it. Seems obvious to me, agreement or not.

It's not surprising to me that they moved in after you zoned. I've had people take camps after my group wiped. Sometimes it gets out of hand, everyone dies/gates then goes back down. I would be pissed if someone else was already there, -especially- if was one person soling instead of a group getting exp.

I'd do the same thing. Except I wouldn't make an agreement, I'd call you an ass and tell you I hope you fail.

Then I would /t lol when you zoned and my group would move in.

[soup]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By soup's logic, I can go around in LGuk making agreements with other groups about rights to camps I don't have rights to, and when those agreements aren't honored, they are the douchebags.

Well this is pretty flawed because you wont be convincing people to give a round of their spawns in exchange for a camp they already have.

But let's say you do convince them to do that. Then let's say after you clear most of the camp, they decide they don't like the deal anymore and are taking over all your work. They are douche bags.

[soup]

Originally Posted by ClamSmasher22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was a poor agreement. If you only wanted one spawn and would release the camp, why wouldn't they help you do it? It would get you out of there much faster and they could move back to what they were doing. It's because they were hoping you would fail and they would then take it. Seems obvious to me, agreement or not.

It's not surprising to me that they moved in after you zoned. I've had people take camps after my group wiped. Sometimes it gets out of hand, everyone dies/gates then goes back down. I would be pissed if someone else was already there, -especially- if was one person soling instead of a group getting exp.

I'd do the same thing. Except I wouldn't make an agreement, I'd call you an ass and tell you I hope you fail.

Then I would /t lol when you zoned and my group would move in.

This would be way more reasonable than making a deal and then just tossing it out. Either say fuck off we aren't offering a thing, or make a deal and stick to it. You think he would have zoned to regen his pet if the group said "fuck off" to his deal? No, he would have sat right there, knowing they would move in otherwise. Instead they made a deal, he made the mistake of thinking they wouldn't be shady about it, so he decides to zone to regen the pet because it's quicker. Then he comes back to find they were in fact being shady.

[President]

Funny thread. It really amazes me how many people are on the side of an enchanter than an entire group who was attempting to get the sword for someones main. It is clear that both parties were in the wrong at some point, but if you have to zone, you can't hold the camp. And arguably, IMO, if zoning is to "speed things up" but doing it the "normal way" takes wayyyy toooo fucking long then you can't hold the camp either. It's the same reason there is a 30 minute timer called on other guilds to prepare for a raid boss, you need to be able to kill it, and kill it quickly.

I guess I'm not allowed to say someone is shit in rnf if they're shit. It makes Div look bad, yet people like President can run their mouth in rnf all day long, and it's a.o.k.

Just because I post a lot doesn't mean I post garbage like most of what R&F is. Daydrem has actually talked with me twice about my posting along time ago, but you are welcome to go through my posts and find the "run my mouth all day" ones and bring them up with her. In fact, I think if you search my posts you will find a large majority of them are more helpful to people than the rest of the active posters on this board.

After you guys booted Tralina, one of the nicest chicks on server for some bs reason, and after you let in so much garbage recently I could see why anyone would be weary of joining.

Tralina was voted out, and then asked to leave. Although I am sure you are the know all end all of the server, a lot of Divinity members had bad experiences with her and many of them had nothing to do with her attention-needing attitude. Unfortunately, even though I'd love to, I can't go into any more detail than this.

[President]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This would be way more reasonable than making a deal and then just tossing it out. Either say fuck off we aren't offering a thing, or make a deal and stick to it. You think he would have zoned to regen his pet if the group said "fuck off" to his deal? No, he would have sat right there, knowing they would move in otherwise. Instead they made a deal, he made the mistake of thinking they wouldn't be shady about it, so he decides to zone to regen the pet because it's quicker. Then he comes back to find they were in fact being shady.

I really don't see how letting someone zone while they are attempting to clear a camp TWICE is shady. It seems pretty clear also he did not let the group know of his near-exploit strategy to take the camp either. The fact the group let him zone twice before deciding he obviously couldn't hold the camp properly is pretty nice of them, and It was even nicer of them that they let him roll on the sword which he lost.

But that's pretty cool of you Mr. Enchanter to not believe that a full group was doing a CR and taking a mith 2h for your alt/sale over someones main.

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't see how letting someone zone while they are attempting to clear a camp TWICE is shady. It seems pretty clear also he did not let the group know of his near-exploit strategy to take the camp either. The fact the group let him zone twice before deciding he obviously couldn't hold the camp properly is pretty nice of them, and It was even nicer of them that they let him roll on the sword which he lost.

But that's pretty cool of you Mr. Enchanter to not believe that a full group was doing a CR and taking a mith 2h for your alt/sale over someones main.

I agree the decent thing to do is to give up the camp to a full group, specially if they say they were doing a CR. Would the group have done the same though if the situation had been the other way around? Camp checks are not always infallible, this is why you win/lose camps. It's all speculation but my money is on the group to tell the enchanter to get bent if the situation had been reversed. Can you imagine? Oh charm broke wrong time, I was doing CR but it was my camp....

There's no "decency" in camping anything. If you get a camp legitimately (of witnessing a group/person fail at retaining a camp), then you should keep it. Making sketchy deals to sketchy people then making a sketchy post is not the way to go.

[Hasbinbad]

Hi Wrei!

[Wrei]

Hi, Hasbinbad!