Drama

[soup]

So I dunno, clearing a fully spawned camp with no apparent signs of anyone camping it and then offering it back to the group after 1 round of spawns
OR
Making a deal to let someone kill the round of spawns but just moving in and killing it all anyway when the enchanter is gone for a few seconds.

pretty tough call on what the real douche baggery is!

BTW if they really placed any merit at ALL in their deal they had made they would have asked the enchanter what he was doing instead of just trucking on in.

It really all just comes down to whether or not you place any value on your word and any agreements you make with it.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I dunno, clearing a fully spawned camp with no apparent signs of anyone camping it and then offering it back to the group after 1 round of spawns
OR
Making a deal to let someone kill the round of spawns but just moving in and killing it all anyway when the enchanter is gone for a few seconds.

pretty tough call on what the real douche baggery is!

BTW if they really placed any merit at ALL in their deal they had made they would have asked the enchanter what he was doing instead of just trucking on in.

It really all just comes down to whether or not you place any value on your word and any agreements you make with it.

They kept their word. He had his opportunity. He failed.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They kept their word. He had his opportunity. He failed.

Except for the part where they didn't even let him engage the mob, rofl

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the part where they didn't even let him engage the mob, rofl

Except for the part WHERE HE LEFT THE FUCKING ZONE. He failed. You play a solo class, don't you?

[Icecometus]

If the OP had explained what he was doing by zoning out I think that all this could have been avoided. The subtle nature of enchanter soloing may not be common knowledge to the rest of the population that needs to group to get phat loots [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Shewz]

People are trying to call me an asshole here (I think some of you are confusing me with soup) so let me clear some things up:

1. I am bound at king.

2. I broke the spawn before I was aware that they were on CR. King is very rarely camped by a group. I'm not on the same plane as a necro camping AM/Lord/Frenzy.

3. I let the spawn repop fully because I didn't expect the m2h to pop and wanted to leave them with some mobs to kill in case it didn't.

4. They knew why I was zoning, because I told them.

^^ So those are all the 100% true facts.

Here's the grey area part of the story that addresses "Shewz zoned because he's a failure":

I didn't put this in the original post because I couldn't prove it with screenshots. As soon as the group saw the M2H king, they had no intention of keeping the deal. They started snaking guards out of the camp (they later claimed: We killed some guards, so we broke the camp, therefore king is ours). They killed the Bok Knight, which is what I use for my pet. This means I had to use a Kor Shaman as my pet instead. This also meant that I knew they were breaking the deal. This added a whole lot of pressure. I was essentially racing against them to aggro the king. I am perfectly capable of efficiently holding the king camp, without zoning, when there isn't a full group racing me and killing my pet mob.

And really, this isn't about server rules. I just wanted to document people being rabid assholes for my own catharsis BEFORE Autum gave me the sword.

Also, the M2H is in the hands of a guildie.

[President]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are trying to call me an asshole here (I think some of you are confusing me with soup) so let me clear some things up:

1. I am bound at king.

2. I broke the spawn before I was aware that they were on CR. King is very rarely camped by a group. I'm not on the same plane as a necro camping AM/Lord/Frenzy.

3. I let the spawn repop fully because I didn't expect the m2h to pop and wanted to leave them with some mobs to kill in case it didn't.

4. They knew why I was zoning, because I told them.

^^ So those are all the 100% true facts.

Whether you have evidence to back it up or not, you should really include everything in the initial post. This can be construed as "Oh shit they are finding flaws in my story I need to go post some other facts." Not that I am saying you are lying, but in the future, include everything in your original post.

Here's the grey area part of the story that addresses "Shewz zoned because he's a failure"

If you need to zone while trying to hold a camp you can lose the camp per the rules, period, end of story.

I didn't put this in the original post because I couldn't prove it with screenshots. As soon as the group saw the M2H king, they had no intention of keeping the deal.

Assumption.

They started snaking guards out of the camp (they later claimed: We killed some guards, so we broke the camp, therefore king is ours). They killed the Bok Knight, which is what I use for my pet. This means I had to use a Kor Shaman as my pet instead.

Part unprovable, part assumption, and part irrelevant. If you can't use whats in front of you to clear the camp, then you can't clear the camp.

This also meant that I knew they were breaking the deal. This added a whole lot of pressure. I was essentially racing against them to aggro the king. I am perfectly capable of efficiently holding the king camp, without zoning, when there isn't a full group racing me and killing my pet mob.

Part assumption, part unprovable, all should have been included in the initial post.

And really, this isn't about server rules. I just wanted to document people being rabid assholes for my own catharsis BEFORE Autum gave me the sword.

Also, the M2H is in the hands of a guildie.

Once again, an enchanter who gates in, doesn't call CC, takes a camp from a group he KNOWS had been camping there aside from having to get group replacements, and you call other people a dick?

I still see this as pretty accurate even though you were bound there:

"Hey, I understand you guys were going to pick up two new members of your group and had a mini wipe, but since I didn't call CC and ran down to the camp and started clearing it, I am going to take the weapon you have been camping for X amount of time even though one of your players needs it."


In Addition: Slappie, if he is an app, will definitely be looked at for his rude/vulgar/lying attitude towards you.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the part WHERE HE LEFT THE FUCKING ZONE. He failed. You play a solo class, don't you?

His only mistake there was giving them too much credit and thinking they would actually honor the agreement they made instead of just moving in after 30 seconds.

I'm sure next time he'll just park the pet and let it regen for 10 minutes and make the group wait even longer instead of trying to speed things up for everyone.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure next time he'll just park the pet and let it regen for 10 minutes and make the group wait even longer instead of trying to speed things up for everyone.

Or mezzing the pet and mem blurring to get the same end result, with the added benefit of not giving up the camp.

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or mezzing the pet and mem blurring to get the same end result, with the added benefit of not giving up the camp.

That would imply "playing" their class... there's a lot of options of which mez/blur is but one of them (1 of the shittiest one since blur is so random). The OP made it a point to stress on the 20 sec, what if it was longer then that? 30? 1min?5min? At what point do you say "ok, he's been gone too long and we can take over the camp". This is why you don't leave in the first place and if you do to make sure that the other party understands what your about to do.

Next time your in a similar situation, just put your foot down and keep the camp if you want to be a dick about it. Don't expect to get a fair deal when the retarded balancing doesn't allow the other 90% of the classes to do what your able to do. This isn't about solo vs group but an enchanter crying over a king camp seriously makes me lol... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]