Disciplinary Action

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Kinamur1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately there's really nothing that can be done about trains/ks except train/ks them back.

A friend and I were duoing solb last night, we were trained twice he only died once but we had to gate both times. What did we do? nothing, my buddy sent a tell and didn't even get an apology the guy wouldn't admit Any wrong doing only that we were in a busy part of the zone.

So yeah, Tons of bullshit going on and really NOTHING that you can do about it but try to keep your head high and move along.

You can find out who his guild leader / officers are and report his behavior. Depending on how they react either blacklist the player or blacklist the guild.

Spread the word in game and on the forums.

Dont ever group with the player.


Its the player bases fault that these asshats are not punished for thier gaming crimes. We the community need to discipline them by blacklisting them.

Instead I see the opposite. I see players condoning the actions and verbally rewarding it. Kinda like a grade school scenario were griefing and trolling is "cool".

Instead of pointing the fingers at the guides, GMs, and Devs how about we take a hold or our responsibility as the players and do the right thing. Set an example and make examples out of bad players and guilds.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second instance- camping Summoner in UGuk, Madpao runs through, aggros Priest pit shamans, runs towards dead zone, FDs, mobs kill my pet as I didn't have enough mana to kill 5 mobs, then runs back through and does it again. Then constantly taunts me asking if I want to 'join his guild'.

Madpao is generally pretty cool. Gonna assume there's far more to the story than what you posted.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Madpao is generally pretty cool. Gonna assume there's far more to the story than what you posted.

Yea Mad is cool, Ive heard lots of training and KS stories of Twopair tho, so its not all surprising to me.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by oldhead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can find out who his guild leader / officers are and report his behavior. Depending on how they react either blacklist the player or blacklist the guild.

Spread the word in game and on the forums.

Dont ever group with the player.


Its the player bases fault that these asshats are not punished for thier gaming crimes. We the community need to discipline them by blacklisting them.

Instead I see the opposite. I see players condoning the actions and verbally rewarding it. Kinda like a grade school scenario were griefing and trolling is "cool".

Instead of pointing the fingers at the guides, GMs, and Devs how about we take a hold or our responsibility as the players and do the right thing. Set an example and make examples out of bad players and guilds.

It doesn't really help to get in touch with their guild higher ups if they either ARE the leader/an officer, or they're in a crappy guild like Dutchmasters where the collective group thinks on a 6 year old level and finds it hilarious to fuck with people.

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Madpao is generally pretty cool. Gonna assume there's far more to the story than what you posted.

There is literally NOTHING more to the story. I was camping Summoner, someone did a camp check, I called my camp, seconds later he runs from south side of the room, grabs a bunch of stuff, runs over me, FDs at the bottom of the stairs, then runs back through and FDs in the hallway opposite me.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to have to disagree with you on the obvious part of this. A virtually identical situation arose on VZ/TZ and a deal was struck with the cheater in exchange for explaining the exploits he knew of.

There have been occasions on EQLive where cheaters were rewarded in exchange for information. MQ2 users were often just given things in exchange for their code in a feeble attempt for SOE to better understand what to look for. Lots of good that did.

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually sounds like he met IB

The most notorious training, kill stealing, leapfrogging guild to ever play on P99

Aside from 1 isolated incident with a DA member that I take full responsibility for for being an overtired jackass (Holmes I <3 you, please let me take you to dinner), I have only ever had pleasant experiences with DA and IB.

Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Twopair likes to train people if he wants to take the camp. He's done it to ass/sup camp in Lguk when he wanted the camp and they wouldn't move for him.

His fatal flaw in an attempt to train me, however, was that I can also FD, and my group died fast enough to where the frog wizards stopped using AoE spells (only 1 person on their aggro list, why bother with AoE). Also, hiding behind a corner helps.

Originally Posted by 2pair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly really like the "he trained this camp this one time" stories with no proof, date, back story... it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.

To my knowledge i haven never intentionally trained people-- yes i know most people would just stand on the sidelines and call me names, and spread viral rumors that i am a "huge douchebag" or what a bad person i am; but did any of you ever come and ask me to go get some ice cream? or maybe take a bike ride down by the lake? or even ask me to come along to the movies for christ sake?! No, everyone on this server just jumped on the bandwagon and left ol' Twopair in the dust.

Time: ~6pm EST 6/18/2010
Group: Vita, Mitic, Solrac, Deimos, Ciksharn

Mitic pulled Savant, you tried to steal his pull (no one was officially camping Savant, he pulled it first) and you cried because you couldn't out DPS a character who, at the time, was more than 10 levels lower than you, so you killed our group with a train.

The rest of the info can be posted by whoever decides to answer the petition.

Dude, you're a dickhead, plain and simple. Then whole plead ignorance thing only digs you a deeper grave. They jumped on the bandwagon because you, and your guild, are complete gutter trash.

[2pair]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't really help to get in touch with their guild higher ups if they either ARE the leader/an officer, or they're in a crappy guild like Dutchmasters where the collective group thinks on a 6 year old level and finds it hilarious to fuck with people.



There is literally NOTHING more to the story. I was camping Summoner, someone did a camp check, I called my camp, seconds later he runs from south side of the room, grabs a bunch of stuff, runs over me, FDs at the bottom of the stairs, then runs back through and FDs in the hallway opposite me.



There have been occasions on EQLive where cheaters were rewarded in exchange for information. MQ2 users were often just given things in exchange for their code in a feeble attempt for SOE to better understand what to look for. Lots of good that did.



Aside from 1 isolated incident with a DA member that I take full responsibility for for being an overtired jackass (Holmes I <3 you, please let me take you to dinner), I have only ever had pleasant experiences with DA and IB.



His fatal flaw in an attempt to train me, however, was that I can also FD, and my group died fast enough to where the frog wizards stopped using AoE spells (only 1 person on their aggro list, why bother with AoE). Also, hiding behind a corner helps.




Time: ~6pm EST 6/18/2010
Group: Vita, Mitic, Solrac, Deimos, Ciksharn

Mitic pulled Savant, you tried to steal his pull (no one was officially camping Savant, he pulled it first) and you cried because you couldn't out DPS a character who, at the time, was more than 10 levels lower than you, so you killed our group with a train.

The rest of the info can be posted by whoever decides to answer the petition.

Dude, you're a dickhead, plain and simple. Then whole plead ignorance thing only digs you a deeper grave. They jumped on the bandwagon because you, and your guild, are complete gutter trash.

My grave is deep, I'm a dickhead, and my guild is gutter trash, and you are one of those people who just makes up a convenient story that makes it so you are right and the other person is wrong-- I'm assuming that you are that Turayalon guy who spammed me for like 40 minutes saying "KID, YOUR DONE", and then spammed my guildmates for 40 minutes trying to get me kicked out after i ignored you. So in my eyes you are the one who is pretending on the forums to be some nice guy who is totally innocent and being taken advantage of. Boo hoo you got "trained" pick your head up and move on quit complaining about it to other people.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by 2pair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My grave is deep, I'm a dickhead, and my guild is gutter trash, and you are one of those people who just makes up a convenient story that makes it so you are right and the other person is wrong-- I'm assuming that you are that Turayalon guy who spammed me for like 40 minutes saying "KID, YOUR DONE", and then spammed my guildmates for 40 minutes trying to get me kicked out after i ignored you. So in my eyes you are the one who is pretending on the forums to be some nice guy who is totally innocent and being taken advantage of. Boo hoo you got "trained" pick your head up and move on quit complaining about it to other people.

It would have been 'you're' not 'your' because I actually paid attention in school, dipshit. This bullshit people people pretending they did nothing wrong is just that, bullshit.

[2pair]

I said "YOUR" for a reason because you most likely didn't graduate high school, not everyone is going to get banned because you have a bad day. So in the words of the great thespian Sir Lawrence Olivier: "Fuck yourself"

[darkblade717]

...and the fact that you're putting in so much effort to try to convince people you aren't a scumsucking asshole with the gaming talent of Stephen Hawking just proves that not only do you care, but you're guilty.

[2pair]

Maybe I'm not an asshole, and your self interpreted reality isn't correct-- or maybe i am an asshole; or better yet maybe I'm a person and have totally different moods at different times... but maybe you have downs syndrome and have to be assisted in going to the bathroom by a 40 year old social worker... so many hypotheses, which one is correct?!

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by 2pair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I'm not an asshole, and your self interpreted reality isn't correct-- or maybe i am an asshole; or better yet maybe I'm a person and have totally different moods at different times... but maybe you have downs syndrome and have to be assisted in going to the bathroom by a 40 year old social worker... so many hypotheses, which one is correct?!

Seeing as how multiple people have said you're trash I'll let you decide, inbred fucktard.