Open Sky Raid - Sunday 24th Feb - 630PM EST

[Eabon]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirran I can see, but otherwise I don't understand this enchanter hate.

I would simply describe it as a minor issue of balance.
There are non-Sirran methods of charming in Sky that allow a single enchanter to be the rough equivalent of up to 10 average melee DPSers.
On a raid like this I would much rather have that DPS represented by 10 actual players, as opposed to bottling it all up in a single enchanter and his or her charmed pet.

However on the other hand, I can entirely understand that if you lack the personnel then it is nothing but common sense to take advantage of charming in order to compensate.
I was mainly referring to Sirran though, to be honest. With a well-organised raid of 25-30 people dragging a griffin or a horse, for instance, to Isle 1 or 2 and using it as a charmed pet the entire raid is nothing but a liability. Sirran, though, removes any semblance of challenge entirely.

It wasn't my intention to attack either of you with that one harmless sentence I put in the original post. Please continue to raid Sky however feels most natural to you, and disregard all other opinions that are contrary.

Also, I'd really prefer it if this thread didn't transform into a thorough discussion of the merits and pitfalls of charming, and if you're still interested in discussing such things then please feel free to send me a tell in-game =)

[Splorf22]

The Spiroc Lord in 63s, 32k @509dps --- A soul harvester 16k @255dps (50.04%) --- Peate 3k @52dps (8.81%) --- Azzudnue 3k @52dps (8.72%) --- Evelinn 2k @40dps (7.58%) --- Xobtik 2k @32dps (5.68%) --- Furiously 2k @27dps (4.99%) --- Qwin 1k @32dps (3.7%) --- Warboy 1k @43dps (3.51%) --- Atravesar 1k @102dps (3.49%) --- Vhaenark 1k @17dps (3.06%) --- Labanab 0k @5dps (0.43%) --- Discouraged 0k @0dps (0%) --- India 0k @0dps (0%) --- Metra 0k @0dps (0%)

I just don't think the splits are so trivializing. Here we have two soul harvesters doing 125k dps each against the Spiroc lord, so perhaps 2-3 high-level rogues or monks each. Also in my experience when hasted and weaponized and quadding rapidly for 255 its basically impossible to recharm them; you have to have enchanters who watch out for each other and mez each others pets on charm breaks while the other one kites (and its not really possible to kite far enough to get off a mez unless you have selos, the damn things are fast). Sirran of course we can agree on; in my opinion everything should be charmable in sky except Sirran. We use him because its an easy way to kill shit but I don't really approve.

My real point though is just that sky is incredibly fucking boring as an enchanter (except for isle 5 and maybe 2 if your pullers suck). It's a pure buff and afk. I used to get so bored that I would memblur stuff. Once I got Astizen summoned ~5 times in a row by timing my blur right before his nukes before he caught on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Zereh]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

--- India 0k @0dps (0%) ---

India is such a slacker. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[India]

Originally Posted by Zereh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

India is such a slacker. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm keeping their expectations low [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Splorf22]

Nice job Eabon!