What is end game like for normal people?

[Gnomebert]

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[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't seem to understand. I do want to contribute to a guild that kills high end raid mobs. I do not want to contribute to the one guild who seem to have positioned themselves in such a way as to actively cut off the vast majority of the server from doing the things that they are able to do or the one guild who is trying to give them competition by employing the same tactics.

Do you think "TMO or GTFO" for anybody who wants to eventually get an epic (yes, eventually - despite what you seem to think, I do not expect to have an epic in a month) or try some tougher raid mobs is a healthy way for the server to be, and the way it should be? That is certainly how you come across here.

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[Peekae]

I feel like socking is thrown around a lot more than it should. The only time its really seen is late window pops.

Numbers / Mobilization is what gets most raid targets. That being said the bat phone thing is probably semi necessary if you want to contest bigger raid mobs.


Most kills I would assume do however consist of camping your main near the spawn and logging in quick when the spawn occurs.

[gotrocks]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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LOL

almost spit out my water at this.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So let me get this right, you think EQ is worthless without getting ultra high end raid drops but also refuse to contribute in anyway to a guild that kills ultra high end raid mobs?

EZ server def sounds like a better fit for your demands, you can get epics without having to deal with other "people" and contribute to "guilds you dont like".

What he said. The OP has stated he is not into Batphoning or Poopsocking yet wants to get uber gear and hard to get epic. Hmm, just doesn't work like that on here. I am no TMO fan but they work they butts off to get what they get and have. Imagine being the Raid Leader for TMO. You think he or she puts in like 5 hours a week. You want good stuff, just like RL you have to work your ass off and be a Pit Bull at times.

[Dweed]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Hey, I have no real interest in your raid schedule and might make a couple raids a week if I feel like it. There is no way you are going to call me in to kill something when I'm not already playing. I also won't pretend that I like the way you guys conduct yourself. Oh, yeah, and I really just want to get this epic drop and spend as little time with you as possible."

You don't quite know about modern bat phones it seems. You subscribe to your guilds twitter, they post to call targets if anything happens. Via twitter you can have those posts txted to you. You can also designate hours of the day that twitter won't relay messages (sleeping). No one in guild will have your number, no one can call you. No mandatory raids, people jump on if they can when the txt goes out.

A few raids a week might cut it on attendance.

Aside from your blatant "spend as little time with you as possible." That's just being silly.

[JesterJester]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What he said. The OP has stated he is not into Batphoning or Poopsocking yet wants to get uber gear and hard to get epic. Hmm, just doesn't work like that on here. I am no TMO fan but they work they butts off to get what they get and have. Imagine being the Raid Leader for TMO. You think he or she puts in like 5 hours a week. You want good stuff, just like RL you have to work your ass off and be a Pit Bull at times.

If "work your ass off" means having no life to be crowned King Nothing, then I say no thanks. If I can never get my epic because of these "classic" mechanics, then so be it. However, it is my belief that the challenge should come from the actual encounter, not from having to choose between IRL and game.

Ultimately, what is this really about? Are we keeping the classic environment merely for the sake of historical accuracy, or rather that we want to relive the fun of the old times? Maybe you can say that we have both, but I disagree - at least on this point.

[rahmani]

I'd say it depends on your personality and your compatibility to your toon's class. I leveled up a warrior to 56 and I absolutely hated being needed for every little thing my guild did. I finally just gave the toon to my guild leader. I'm playing my wizard now.

[shorttin]

no socks = eqmac. also, have more content!

[India]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is not helpful. You shouldn't be assuming that the OP isn't clever enough to know that he should go do something else if he isn't having any fun, and instead should be assuming that the OP wants to have fun at level 60 and is just wondering how exactly he is supposed to do that.

Given the title and self righteousness of his post I couldn't take him seriously.

He's denied it, but he sounds angry. Or perhaps this is just a not so cleverly disguised troll. Regardless...

OP, if you've read the forums like you claimed, you would know that it's not all gloom and doom. There are some wonderfully fun & nice people that play this game. You would have found that there are numerous guilds that do things that don't require you to poopsock. You'd also know that Velious is on the way, and once released Kunark raid targets will likely be available to others.

You stated that you "made a mistake" by reading the forums first. So you realize somewhere inside yourself that the forums are not representative of the actual community, nor even the people of those guilds you already claim to dislike without even knowing the members within.

In knowing all this I can't help but wonder what the actual purpose of this thread was for. To trash talk guilds? The raiding scene as it stands? Attention?