Suicide Kings Raid Proposal

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Akame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this system is only valid until when? Kunark?

After Kunark opens up, I suspect that several of the targets would be eligible to be reclassified as FFA. Those targets required for epics might still have to be on the list.

[Akame]

Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After Kunark opens up, I suspect that several of the targets would be eligible to be reclassified as FFA. Those targets required for epics might still have to be on the list.

No, you are not going to be able to list epic mobs. Even non raiding guilds will want a chance at epic mobs when they won't be normally raiding themselves and therefore will not want to be on a full target list. Next thing you'd know you'd have individual lists by raid boss and it'd be care bears and rainbows for everyone. At best you can hope for is to use a system like this until Kunark/Epics come out.

[Beau]

For those of you calling it a rotation system, please take a good look at the current rules and then stop and think a minute. It is far FAR from a rotation system, and in fact favors activity and a more FFA style than the rules we have now.

With the camping that's going on, guilds (two of them, really) are picking targets as if they were raiding on a rotation system, with the other guild generally picking another uncamped target. With the suicide kings system guilds won't have an incentive to camp and will be forced track and to mobilize immediately after a spawn (something that really hasn't been happening the past 2-3 weeks whatsoever). This is actually more in line with an FFA system that favors guilds that are active, mobilize well -- and if the timers are figured out -- guilds that are well organized.

It will be a rotation. Because people will not be dumb enough to lose their once every few weeks targets. And if you think camping still wont happen no matter what the set rules are you are kidding yourself.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Kainzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The suicide loot system was flawed, so is this.

Every system will be flawed in some manner.

Simply stating that the original Suicide Kings loot system was flawed, and that the variation proposed is _also_ flawed without stating any reasons to why is neither helpful, nor productive.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Beau [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you think camping still wont happen no matter what the set rules are you are kidding yourself.

What incentive to camping will there be, when one tracker has as much chance to opt to engage as a group of fifteen?

The only advantage camping would have is that your mobilization time would be shorter, thus giving you more attempts and tries at the target within your window.