Raid Changes

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not exactly. The mob would have an equal chance at spawning at ANY point during each independent window extension. IE: during window one it could spawn at 1 second in or at the last second.

Yes, there are "blocks" where a staggered sock is, in theory, possible. However, the idea is that the % chance at an extension is conducted at some point when the timer is between 75% and 85% completion, AND the first timer extension has a 50% chance of occurring (or tweaked to some reasonable % so as to make socking unprofitable). These combined raised the level of uncertainty to a point so that socking becomes immensely unprofitable.

Also:

You're not understanding what I'm saying, every single extension's endpoint would be a known time which makes your solution "more of the same".

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No boss here has a 10 hour variance, they range from 18, 24, and 48 hour variances.

The chances that a mob goes to the last 10% of its window is already low, on top of that it would be highly discouraging to those wanting to sock something out that last 2-5 hours to have a coin flip that it could be another 24 hours, and yet another coin flip to extend again.

The reason socking is prevalent at this point (keeping in mind the variance as implemented is not classic) is because you know that the boss will spawn for sure within that rapidly closing window. The addition of FTE rules also further encourages sitting on spawn points for the FTE lottery win.

Made up numbers for simplicity. Also, the odds that a mob will spawn in the last 10% of its variance are the same as the first 10% or at any other time, so a late window spawn is just as statistically probable as any other spawn time.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not understanding what I'm saying, every single extension's endpoint would be a known time which makes your solution "more of the same".



Made up numbers for simplicity. Also, the odds that a mob will spawn in the last 10% of its variance are the same as the first 10% or at any other time, so a late window spawn is just as statistically probable as any other spawn time.

I don't disagree with any of those points. I do disagree with you that people would keep coming back at each new close of window. In my opinion, the prospect of keeping people and bringing them back for sock after sock on the same single mob would be highly discouraging.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't disagree with any of those points. I do disagree with you that people would keep coming back at each new close of window. In my opinion, the prospect of keeping people and bringing them back for sock after sock on the same single mob would be highly discouraging.

If you could honestly tell me you're certain guilds wouldn't stoop even lower to the challenge (as in you'd wager something important on it), I'll concede this point.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you could honestly tell me you're certain guilds wouldn't stoop even lower to the challenge (as in you'd wager something important on it), I'll concede this point.

Thats the issue people are already socking 3-4 days straight.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you could honestly tell me you're certain guilds wouldn't stoop even lower to the challenge (as in you'd wager something important on it), I'll concede this point.

I have no idea what you just said.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no idea what you just said.

Not my problem, yours.

e: post is still there, read it as many times as you need to

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my problem, yours.

e: post is still there, read it as many times as you need to

as someone who has written academic papers, this is just wrong. If someone doesn't understand what you are saying, that is YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if they have the IQ of an amoeba (average for tenured professors), it's YOUR job to make your points understandable, not criticize their intellectual equipment.

[SupaflyIRL]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as someone who has written academic papers, this is just wrong. If someone doesn't understand what you are saying, that is YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if they have the IQ of an amoeba (average for tenured professors), it's YOUR job to make your points understandable, not criticize their intellectual equipment.

My post was not in any way ambiguous and this isn't an academic paper.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as someone who has written academic papers, this is just wrong. If someone doesn't understand what you are saying, that is YOUR fault. It doesn't matter if they have the IQ of an amoeba (average for tenured professors), it's YOUR job to make your points understandable, not criticize their intellectual equipment.

He has to write something that is understandable to a majority there will always be people who dont understand. However, I understood what supafly or what not was saying. It was pretty clear he was stating that people would just poopsock longer.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My post was not in any way ambiguous and this isn't an academic paper.

Originally Posted by SupaflyIRL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not my problem, yours.

e: post is still there, read it as many times as you need to

You seem to have a thought in mind, but you are not presenting it correctly.