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Old 02-01-2013, 02:32 PM
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Wait, what? How did you come to the conclusion that many of us are dependent on some sort of safety net?
Simple statistics. I am not making a statement about the community of Project 1999 in general.

Safety nets include Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps, unemployment, social programs including rehab facilities, soup kitchens.

In general almost everyone (96%) of Americans (i realize I am not speaking for European countries) have received some form of government assistance in their lifetime:

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...ort/?mobile=nc

(I realize this is in relevance to the stupid Romney '47%' thing).

I think there is nothing shameful in it at all.

And Tecmos, I have no desire to argue with you about anything. Not because it's you, I just don't really like forum debates. I find that people usually have made up their mind and tend to just prattle on at each other (See RnF).

I do enjoy your solo artist writeups, however.

Cheers,

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:37 PM
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I do enjoy your solo artist writeups, however.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:25 PM
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Safety nets include Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps, unemployment, social programs including rehab facilities, soup kitchens.

In general almost everyone (96%) of Americans (i realize I am not speaking for European countries) have received some form of government assistance in their lifetime:
If I'm forced to pay into a fund (Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, unemployment, etc) then I'm going to milk it for every dime I can as long as it's 1) moral/ethical (not screwing the system) and 2) legal.

I think the term 'safety net' is rather offensive. This isn't an attack on you personally, and I'm not currently using any of the above systems, but the principle remains. The 'nets' I listed are no different than any other insurance... You put into it with the expectation that, should you need it, those funds will be made available to you at a later time.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:39 PM
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If I'm forced to pay into a fund (Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, unemployment, etc) then I'm going to milk it for every dime I can as long as it's 1) moral/ethical (not screwing the system) and 2) legal.

I think the term 'safety net' is rather offensive. This isn't an attack on you personally, and I'm not currently using any of the above systems, but the principle remains. The 'nets' I listed are no different than any other insurance... You put into it with the expectation that, should you need it, those funds will be made available to you at a later time.
You find the term offensive, I find it comforting. Word choice doesn't take away the fact that it is a social program designed to keep people off the streets when they fall on hard times.

I could launch into a diatribe about social security and the difference between socialized medicine and a purely privatized medical world, but it's not worth it.

You seem to be looking to want to take offense to things. I'm just noting that almost everyone can and should, like you pointed out, use government assistance when it is applicable.
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