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Old 06-21-2010, 06:01 PM
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:18 PM
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:30 PM
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OK, you have had your fun trolling. That accomplished, are the words "Schaden", "Freude", or "Schadenfreude" offensive to you? Just curious what your stance is.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:54 PM
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OK, you have had your fun trolling. That accomplished, are the words "Schaden", "Freude", or "Schadenfreude" offensive to you? Just curious what your stance is.
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No titles, Name and Lastname should not form words or phrases, Names should not be phrases, brand names, etc. ...
I extend this meaning of phrases to include expressions of speech, like idioms, or colloquialisms.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:08 PM
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No titles, Name and Lastname should not form words or phrases, Names should not be phrases, brand names, etc. ...

I extend this meaning of phrases to include expressions of speech, like idioms, or colloquialisms.
Nice dodge. You didn't answer the question, and instead referred to what the guide believes to be the naming policy. The problem is, the only rule regarding names that is posted has to deal with "offensive" names. Cyrius doesn't know the name policy that he is enforcing. At some point in the future I fully expect to see revised rules which will include, verbatim, what Cyrius believes should be the name policy. Until that time, however, the only rule regarding names is "it cannot be offensive".

However, if they fully intend to create a policy that states "names cannot be words", more than half of the server is already, unknowingly, out of compliance. They will be in for a very rude awakening when the name-hammer swings with impunity.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:46 PM
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Nice dodge.
Dodge this:

I think every one of you whining and crying babies have pursued it the wrong way.

At this rate with the progression of the thread it is only going to end in forum bans, or RnF rather than with any constructive change toward a formal naming policy.

Bitch. Cry. Spread your bullshit. Get banned. Ragequit over how unfair the entire thing is. I don't give a fuck.

All I know is that I would rather have Cyrius overseeing it than one of you.

Wanna know why? He's tolerated your little shitflinging crusade against him, in Server Chat rather than RnF no less, when he could have straight up had a number of you tanked for going after him personally (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1594) in a thread which should have been sent to RnF three days ago.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:03 PM
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Personally, I believe I have been conducting this dialogue with integrity, always sticking to the facts (as usual). Nothing I have said here has violated the rules. In addition, people that I defend or associate with in this thread are not me - if someone else violates the rules it's not my problem, even if they're in the same camp as I am.

Ultimately, our actions here have resulted in creating several opposing factions. I agree with you that this may be counterproductive to positive change if one is only looking to get the naming policy reformed. Please realize that some people have other ideals to stick to.

I also agree that I would probably make a terrible GM. I don't have the time or dedication to this project to do it. However, that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions if I see injustice. Just because I'm unwilling to become a soldier doesn't mean I can't cry foul when I see one shooting an unarmed civilian. Just because I don't want to be a member of a jury doesn't mean I wouldn't proclaim injustice if I saw a verdict that was clearly wrong.

It's true that I get enjoyment from participating in these kinds of threads, but I also feel as though there's true injustice taking place, and because of that I feel obligated to participate in this thread, even when it may sometimes be unpleasant or dangerous for me to do so.
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Old 06-22-2010, 02:12 AM
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Nice dodge. You didn't answer the question, and instead referred to what the guide believes to be the naming policy. The problem is, the only rule regarding names that is posted has to deal with "offensive" names. Cyrius doesn't know the name policy that he is enforcing. At some point in the future I fully expect to see revised rules which will include, verbatim, what Cyrius believes should be the name policy. Until that time, however, the only rule regarding names is "it cannot be offensive".

However, if they fully intend to create a policy that states "names cannot be words", more than half of the server is already, unknowingly, out of compliance. They will be in for a very rude awakening when the name-hammer swings with impunity.
You are so wrong. Just wait till we are ready to post the final worded rules. Now stop the attempt to bash me, it bores me to reply to this thread every day.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278

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Old 06-22-2010, 07:33 AM
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You are so wrong. Just wait till we are ready to post the final worded rules. Now stop the attempt to bash me, it bores me to reply to this thread every day.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3278
It appears, to me, that you just admitted the naming policy that is posted is not the one you are enforcing. Which also means everything I have stated is true: The only rule is a name cannot be "offensive", you are enforcing a policy that does not exist (yet), and when it does change it will be identical to what you believe it should have been.

Unless you include the non-GM account you have been using to post in this thread (yeah, it is pretty obvious which one that is), you (Cyrius) have not posted in this thread since June 19th. Stop making claims that are easily disproven.

That isn't a bash on you, that is simply stating the facts in a clear and concise manner.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:45 PM
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I've read like 12 pages of this ungodly thread and am no clearer on what the naming policy is supposed to be. I mean, the obvious ones like ihatemexicans or some shit, I get it. I even understand the no "phrases" thing, although personally I think it's kinda lame. Honestly, I'm not trying to be a dick and I don't need an ironclad guide of what constitutes an acceptable name so I can look for loopholes.

I just want to roll some characters that I am reasonably certain will not run afoul of the naming policy, and never cared much for the ones like Darkwarrior Thunderstalker or whatever else jumped right out of the latest fantasy novel or character name generator (no offense to those who do, just not my cup of tea).

Can you not have a name that's an actual word? Is it just English words? What about names that are also names of other fictional characters? What about names that are also actually names of other things which happen to also be words? I have characters named Symmetry and Atomics, are they legal?

What about Cyrius, who seems, in this thread at least, to be the main agent of enforcement? That is also an actual word, it's a subspecies of gobi fish (Neogobius cyrius - http://www.eol.org/pages/208083). -- Nothing personal Cyrius, you seem like a good guy.

I have no complaints about Guide this or GM-that or favoritism or whatever it is that has most of your panties all up in a bunch, I'm just a newish player trying to figure out the common sense guidelines for not getting your dude's name deleted.
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